Re: Adding Flycheck to NonGNU ELPA

[Thierry Volpiatto <thievol@posteo.net>]

Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:

>> Let's remove Helm from NonGNU, then: its UI paradigm is also different
>> from the core Emacs, and IMHO it's rather ugly.

[Not sure who wrote this] but anyway,

saying a package is ugly just because it provides a different UI than
Emacs is unfair at best.  Helm is and is still one of the best
completion package (but not only) around here and I made a lot of work
for this, so please be respectful of my work or provide constructive critics.

>> And swiper/ivy from ELPA, just because.

Same here, a very good package and there is a lot of work behind this, so...

> While I am not a fan of Helm, it was initially added to provide popular
> packages that a number of people appeared to want to use.  Luckily these
> packages fall into the category of providing the front-end of a shared
> interface (completing-read; and that not without issues, because they
> tend to abuse completing-read's text expansion idea by focusing on
> narrowing and selecting).  And yes, there are packages that have hard
> dependencies on Helm, but usually when people submit these kinds of
> packages, we at least mention the idea of trying to generalise them, so
> that the front- and back-end can be disentangled from one another.

Helm is providing a full support on Emacs completion mechanism
(completing-read, completion-in-region etc...), Emacs
styles included.

-- 
Thierry