From: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>
To: Aaron Ecay <aaronecay@gmail.com>
Cc: Rostislav Svoboda <rostislav.svoboda@gmail.com>,
"emacs-devel@gnu.org Development" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: What improvements would be truly useful?
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 21:55:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <871sgys0nm.fsf@elephly.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sh9eny0g.fsf@gmail.com>
Aaron Ecay <aaronecay@gmail.com> writes:
> 2018ko martxoak 5an, Rostislav Svoboda-ek idatzi zuen:
>>
>
> [...]
>
>> I know it's a bitter pill to swallow, but let's face it - do we think,
>> our bellowed Emacs will ever be able to display anything like the
>> examples from https://threejs.org ?
>
> Thanks to the xwidgets support (info "(elisp) Xwidgets"), it is possible
> to embed a graphical web browser with full JS support in an emacs buffer.
> So itʼs possible to have the best of both worlds: emacsʼs support for
> text editing combined with the visualization and interactivity of modern
> Javascript libraries.
Communication with the webkit widget is not easy. It certainly doesn’t
feel like a first-class citizen in Emacs. It is possible to send
strings containing a JavaScript programme to the webkit widget and
retrieve simple strings from the widget, but there is no shared state.
All values crossing over the boundary between the Elisp world and the
widget need to be converted first.
We have no way to compile Elisp to JavaScript strings to smoothen out
the rough transition between these two worlds. (Guile supports
ECMAscript and Elisp, but even in Guile Emacs the webkit widget would be
a foreign body.)
While it is a neat hack to embed an X widget in an Emacs buffer, I don’t
think that we should be using the embedded webkit widget as a display
engine.
--
Ricardo
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https://elephly.net
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2018-03-01 23:22 ` Let's make the GC safe and iterative (Was: Re: bug#30626) Daniel Colascione
2018-03-01 23:29 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-05 6:31 ` Ken Raeburn
2018-03-05 13:11 ` What improvements would be truly useful? Richard Stallman
2018-03-05 14:02 ` John Yates
2018-03-05 17:21 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-05 16:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-05 17:32 ` Rostislav Svoboda
2018-03-05 18:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-05 19:18 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-05 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-05 23:05 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-05 23:16 ` dancol
2018-03-06 20:54 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-06 21:15 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-08 4:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-08 9:16 ` Jefferson Carpenter
2018-03-08 9:17 ` Yuri Khan
2018-03-08 13:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-08 20:07 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-08 20:29 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-03-09 4:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-09 22:20 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-09 22:42 ` Karl Fogel
2018-03-11 17:02 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-03-06 20:01 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-03-06 20:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 20:41 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-03-07 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 18:30 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-03-07 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 20:49 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-03-07 23:00 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-09 10:56 ` Phillip Lord
2018-03-09 13:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 16:02 ` Phillip Lord
2018-03-10 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 22:20 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-06 15:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-03-05 19:05 ` Aaron Ecay
2018-03-05 20:55 ` Ricardo Wurmus [this message]
2018-03-05 23:05 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-09 11:02 ` Phillip Lord
2018-03-09 22:20 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-10 20:23 ` Phillip Lord
2018-03-11 23:26 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-05 17:57 ` Variable-width font indentation (was: What improvements would be truly useful?) Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-05 19:32 ` dancol
2018-03-05 19:49 ` Variable-width font indentation Paul Eggert
2018-03-06 15:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-03-06 15:34 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 17:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-05 19:58 ` Variable-width font indentation (was: What improvements would be truly useful?) Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-05 20:28 ` Variable-width font indentation Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-05 22:30 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-05 22:53 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-06 1:06 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 1:30 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-06 1:40 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 2:04 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-06 3:36 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 19:50 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 5:48 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-06 13:18 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 16:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 20:11 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 20:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 13:15 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-07 18:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 16:07 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-07 22:13 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-08 13:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-08 14:05 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 16:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 16:38 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-06 17:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 17:55 ` dancol
2018-03-06 20:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 20:20 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-06 18:53 ` Sam Steingold
2018-03-06 22:43 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-03-07 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 19:38 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-07 20:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 23:01 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-08 12:33 ` Robert Pluim
2018-03-08 13:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-08 15:15 ` Robert Pluim
2018-03-06 20:52 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-06 4:05 ` Herring, Davis
2018-03-06 13:33 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 14:18 ` Herring, Davis
2018-03-06 15:02 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 16:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 19:59 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 20:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 21:15 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-06 21:47 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-07 17:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 18:27 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-07 20:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 20:32 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-08 15:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-08 16:30 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-08 19:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-08 19:55 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-09 8:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 17:52 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-09 18:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 20:16 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-09 21:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 21:55 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-10 0:09 ` James Cloos
2018-03-10 8:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 19:48 ` James Cloos
2018-03-10 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 22:18 ` James Cloos
2018-03-11 3:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 19:48 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-09 21:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 22:54 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-10 8:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 4:27 ` Yuri Khan
2018-03-10 8:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 11:42 ` Yuri Khan
2018-03-10 14:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 13:49 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-08 4:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-08 13:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-08 22:03 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-09 8:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 16:05 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-09 16:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 8:12 ` Variable-width font alignment Stephen Leake
2018-03-10 8:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 17:30 ` Stephen Leake
2018-03-10 19:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 7:42 ` Variable-width font indentation Stephen Leake
2018-03-06 16:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-06 19:59 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-05 23:05 ` Variable-width font indentation (was: What improvements would be truly useful?) Richard Stallman
2018-03-06 16:04 ` Variable-width font indentation Stefan Monnier
2018-03-06 17:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 18:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-06 20:56 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-06 20:55 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-07 7:05 ` Yuri Khan
2018-03-06 16:14 ` Variable-width font indentation (was: What improvements would be truly useful?) Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 20:55 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-05 18:51 ` What improvements would be truly useful? Daniele Nicolodi
2018-03-05 19:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 6:32 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2018-03-06 16:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 17:01 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-07 5:45 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2018-03-07 17:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 17:49 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2018-03-07 18:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 21:45 ` Philipp Stephani
2018-03-08 13:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-08 16:24 ` Alan Third
2018-03-08 18:02 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-06 7:48 ` Yuri Khan
2018-03-06 17:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-05 21:15 ` Juri Linkov
2018-03-05 23:46 ` Óscar Fuentes
2018-03-06 3:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-02 20:40 ` Continuous image scrolling (was: What improvements would be truly useful?) Juri Linkov
2018-04-03 1:59 ` Continuous image scrolling Óscar Fuentes
2018-04-03 7:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-03 19:59 ` Juri Linkov
2018-04-03 20:20 ` Drew Adams
2018-04-04 19:54 ` Juri Linkov
2018-04-03 21:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-03 21:57 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-04-04 6:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-04 19:50 ` Juri Linkov
2018-04-05 6:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-04 23:31 ` Tak Kunihiro
2018-04-05 2:45 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-04-05 3:54 ` Tak Kunihiro
2018-04-05 19:56 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-04-05 22:59 ` Tak Kunihiro
2018-04-06 4:36 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-04-06 9:35 ` Tak Kunihiro
2018-04-04 19:19 ` John Wiegley
2018-03-05 22:09 ` What improvements would be truly useful? John Wiegley
2018-03-05 23:04 ` daniel sutton
2018-03-06 20:51 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-08 11:44 ` Toon Claes
2018-03-08 20:08 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-12 21:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-03-01 23:38 ` Let's make the GC safe and iterative Stefan Monnier
2018-03-02 0:05 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-02 13:47 ` Stefan Monnier
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