From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Variable-width font indentation
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 14:03:21 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2ca6f8cf-96f6-9caf-d72b-739a8f9cc28d@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <838tb2ptpw.fsf@gnu.org>
On 03/08/2018 05:44 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> Yes, using variable-pitch fonts in code where indentation is important
> has its disadvantages, and always will. Any solution will have the
> same issues, just under different use cases and situations. That's
> why this is not the main use case
Although it has disadvantages, it shouldn't be that hard to do it better
than Emacs does it now (along the lines that Clément prototyped), and if
Emacs had these improvements the benefits of variable-pitch fonts would
outweigh the costs in many practical programming applications.
Programming in variable-width fonts makes more-efficient use of valuable
screen real estate, so it's worth doing when it works reasonably well,
as it often would if Emacs supported it better.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-03-08 22:03 UTC|newest]
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2018-03-01 23:22 ` Let's make the GC safe and iterative (Was: Re: bug#30626) Daniel Colascione
2018-03-01 23:29 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-05 6:31 ` Ken Raeburn
2018-03-05 13:11 ` What improvements would be truly useful? Richard Stallman
2018-03-05 14:02 ` John Yates
2018-03-05 17:21 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-05 16:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-05 17:32 ` Rostislav Svoboda
2018-03-05 18:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-05 19:18 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-05 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-05 23:05 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-05 23:16 ` dancol
2018-03-06 20:54 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-06 21:15 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-08 4:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-08 9:16 ` Jefferson Carpenter
2018-03-08 9:17 ` Yuri Khan
2018-03-08 13:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-08 20:07 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-08 20:29 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-03-09 4:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-09 22:20 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-09 22:42 ` Karl Fogel
2018-03-11 17:02 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-03-06 20:01 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-03-06 20:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 20:41 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-03-07 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 18:30 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-03-07 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 20:49 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-03-07 23:00 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-09 10:56 ` Phillip Lord
2018-03-09 13:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 16:02 ` Phillip Lord
2018-03-10 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 22:20 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-06 15:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-03-05 19:05 ` Aaron Ecay
2018-03-05 20:55 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-03-05 23:05 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-09 11:02 ` Phillip Lord
2018-03-09 22:20 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-10 20:23 ` Phillip Lord
2018-03-11 23:26 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-05 17:57 ` Variable-width font indentation (was: What improvements would be truly useful?) Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-05 19:32 ` dancol
2018-03-05 19:49 ` Variable-width font indentation Paul Eggert
2018-03-06 15:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-03-06 15:34 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 17:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-05 19:58 ` Variable-width font indentation (was: What improvements would be truly useful?) Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-05 20:28 ` Variable-width font indentation Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-05 22:30 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-05 22:53 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-06 1:06 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 1:30 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-06 1:40 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 2:04 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-06 3:36 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 19:50 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 5:48 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-06 13:18 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 16:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 20:11 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 20:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 13:15 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-07 18:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 16:07 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-07 22:13 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-08 13:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-08 14:05 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 16:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 16:38 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-06 17:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 17:55 ` dancol
2018-03-06 20:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 20:20 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-06 18:53 ` Sam Steingold
2018-03-06 22:43 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-03-07 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 19:38 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-07 20:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 23:01 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-08 12:33 ` Robert Pluim
2018-03-08 13:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-08 15:15 ` Robert Pluim
2018-03-06 20:52 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-06 4:05 ` Herring, Davis
2018-03-06 13:33 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 14:18 ` Herring, Davis
2018-03-06 15:02 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 16:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 19:59 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 20:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 21:15 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-06 21:47 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-07 17:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 18:27 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-07 20:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 20:32 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-08 15:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-08 16:30 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-08 19:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-08 19:55 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-09 8:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 17:52 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-09 18:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 20:16 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-09 21:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 21:55 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-10 0:09 ` James Cloos
2018-03-10 8:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 19:48 ` James Cloos
2018-03-10 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 22:18 ` James Cloos
2018-03-11 3:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 19:48 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-09 21:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 22:54 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-10 8:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 4:27 ` Yuri Khan
2018-03-10 8:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 11:42 ` Yuri Khan
2018-03-10 14:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 13:49 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-08 4:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-08 13:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-08 22:03 ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2018-03-09 8:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 16:05 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-09 16:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 8:12 ` Variable-width font alignment Stephen Leake
2018-03-10 8:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 17:30 ` Stephen Leake
2018-03-10 19:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 7:42 ` Variable-width font indentation Stephen Leake
2018-03-06 16:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-06 19:59 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-05 23:05 ` Variable-width font indentation (was: What improvements would be truly useful?) Richard Stallman
2018-03-06 16:04 ` Variable-width font indentation Stefan Monnier
2018-03-06 17:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 18:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-06 20:56 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-06 20:55 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-07 7:05 ` Yuri Khan
2018-03-06 16:14 ` Variable-width font indentation (was: What improvements would be truly useful?) Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 20:55 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-05 18:51 ` What improvements would be truly useful? Daniele Nicolodi
2018-03-05 19:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 6:32 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2018-03-06 16:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 17:01 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-07 5:45 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2018-03-07 17:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 17:49 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2018-03-07 18:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 21:45 ` Philipp Stephani
2018-03-08 13:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-08 16:24 ` Alan Third
2018-03-08 18:02 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-06 7:48 ` Yuri Khan
2018-03-06 17:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-05 21:15 ` Juri Linkov
2018-03-05 23:46 ` Óscar Fuentes
2018-03-06 3:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-02 20:40 ` Continuous image scrolling (was: What improvements would be truly useful?) Juri Linkov
2018-04-03 1:59 ` Continuous image scrolling Óscar Fuentes
2018-04-03 7:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-03 19:59 ` Juri Linkov
2018-04-03 20:20 ` Drew Adams
2018-04-04 19:54 ` Juri Linkov
2018-04-03 21:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-03 21:57 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-04-04 6:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-04 19:50 ` Juri Linkov
2018-04-05 6:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-04 23:31 ` Tak Kunihiro
2018-04-05 2:45 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-04-05 3:54 ` Tak Kunihiro
2018-04-05 19:56 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-04-05 22:59 ` Tak Kunihiro
2018-04-06 4:36 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-04-06 9:35 ` Tak Kunihiro
2018-04-04 19:19 ` John Wiegley
2018-03-05 22:09 ` What improvements would be truly useful? John Wiegley
2018-03-05 23:04 ` daniel sutton
2018-03-06 20:51 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-08 11:44 ` Toon Claes
2018-03-08 20:08 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-12 21:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-03-01 23:38 ` Let's make the GC safe and iterative Stefan Monnier
2018-03-02 0:05 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-02 13:47 ` Stefan Monnier
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