From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk
Subject: Re: policy discussion on bundling ELPA packages in the emacs tarball
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 11:30:47 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86wnw06cgo.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83sg6q2is5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 24 Jan 2021 22:15:38 +0200")
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
>> Cc: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 12:10:02 -0800
>>
>> Do you agree that having one full copy of the ELPA repository in your
>> local emacs .git repository is acceptable?
>
> IMO, people who are interested only in packages bundled with Emacs
> should not need to have ELPA on their local machines. Not even one
> checkout of ELPA should be needed. They should just need to clone the
> Emacs Git repository (modulo the submodules-related options), and
> that's all. Exactly like they do today: there's no need to clone ELPA
> to have a fully functional clone of the Emacs Git repository.
That is exactly what using submodules accomplishes.
But I'm not sure you've answered my question. Let me phrase it
differently:
Doing 'git clone <membername>@git.savannah.gnu.org:/srv/git/emacs.git'
results in disk space usage of around 300 MB in emacs/.git, and does not
populate emacs/elpa.
Doing 'git clone <membername>@git.savannah.gnu.org:/srv/git/emacs.git
--recurse-submodules' results in disk space usage of around 500 MB in
emacs/.git, and populates emacs/elpa.
If we implemented the suggestion to split the ELPA repository into one
repository per bundled package, that extra 200 MB would be smaller.
Is 200 MB acceptable?
>> For developers who also have elpa.git cloned separately, that's a
>> duplicate copy.
>
> Which it shouldn't be.
I agree it would be nice, but that's up to the git maintainers. Or we
could look for another CM tool ...
I can see some reasons for the current git design; _all_ of the info needed
to update the code for project foo is in foo/.git. Worktrees stretch
that; allowing submodules to be worktree-like references to yet another
repository somewhere else would probably break many things in git.
--
-- Stephe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-01-25 19:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-01-21 1:41 policy discussion on bundling ELPA packages in the emacs tarball Stephen Leake
2021-01-21 14:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-22 10:56 ` [SPAM UNSURE] " Stephen Leake
2021-01-22 11:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-22 14:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-21 21:54 ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-23 2:50 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-23 8:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-24 16:26 ` [SPAM UNSURE] " Stephen Leake
2021-01-24 21:49 ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-25 19:38 ` [SPAM UNSURE] " Stephen Leake
2021-01-25 19:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-25 20:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-26 1:04 ` Andy Moreton
2021-01-26 2:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-26 14:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 15:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-26 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 16:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-26 16:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 17:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-26 17:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 17:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-26 19:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-28 0:15 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-28 2:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-28 13:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-28 13:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-27 14:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-27 14:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-26 18:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-26 18:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-27 14:21 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-27 14:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-27 14:48 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-27 14:42 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-27 16:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-23 9:27 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-23 9:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-24 2:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-24 16:27 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-24 17:30 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-24 18:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-24 20:10 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-24 20:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-24 20:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-25 22:00 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-26 1:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-26 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 15:24 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-01-27 14:37 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-27 16:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-28 0:10 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-28 13:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-25 19:30 ` Stephen Leake [this message]
2021-01-25 19:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-27 14:31 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-27 14:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-28 3:34 ` Andy Moreton
2021-01-27 16:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-29 17:47 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-01 8:45 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-01 15:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-24 22:09 ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-25 19:14 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-27 11:10 ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-27 14:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-28 0:05 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-24 20:19 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-24 2:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
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