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From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
To: Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk>
Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: policy discussion on bundling ELPA packages in the emacs tarball
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 11:14:56 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <861re87rrj.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87im7mgf66.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Sun, 24 Jan 2021 22:09:53 +0000")

Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk> writes:

> Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org> writes:
>
>> But "copy" implies that the git information is lost, so you can't edit
>> the copy and push the changes. That won't do.
>
> Yes, that's the flaw, and it's a fairly big one. If you wanted to edit,
> and commit that would require checking out from the ELPA repo, updating
> the pointer on the Emacs tree and then checking back in again. 

> I solve this problem for my own packages by not installing them from
> ELPA, but from their git repos. This means normal users and me as
> developer have a different set up.

Yes; package developers edit package code in an ELPA checkout; typically
they will also run the code from there as well for testing, by putting
that directory in load-path.

But with bundled packages as submodules, they could switch to editing
them in the emacs workspace instead.

The main point is that other emacs developers can also edit the package
files, to fix bugs or make changes consistent with some core emacs change.

> straight.el solves this problem in a more principled way; the package is
> the git repo, but then the package manager is completely dependent on
> git.

From https://github.com/raxod502/straight.el. That sounds useful.

-- 
-- Stephe



  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-25 19:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-21  1:41 policy discussion on bundling ELPA packages in the emacs tarball Stephen Leake
2021-01-21 14:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-22 10:56   ` [SPAM UNSURE] " Stephen Leake
2021-01-22 11:50     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-22 14:05       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-21 21:54 ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-23  2:50   ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-23  8:17     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-24 16:26       ` [SPAM UNSURE] " Stephen Leake
2021-01-24 21:49       ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-25 19:38         ` [SPAM UNSURE] " Stephen Leake
2021-01-25 19:54           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-25 20:39           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-26  1:04             ` Andy Moreton
2021-01-26  2:38               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-26 14:44             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 15:25               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-26 15:34                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 16:14                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-26 16:30                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 17:27                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-26 17:42                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 17:57                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-26 19:12                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-28  0:15                               ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-28  2:05                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-28 13:47                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-28 13:43                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-27 14:52                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-27 14:57                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-26 18:02                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-26 18:12                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-27 14:21                   ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-27 14:35                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-27 14:48               ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-27 14:42             ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-27 16:22               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-23  9:27     ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-23  9:57       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-24  2:28         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-24 16:27           ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-24 17:30         ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-24 18:10           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-24 20:10             ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-24 20:15               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-24 20:42                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-25 22:00                   ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-26  1:57                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-26 14:48                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 15:24                       ` Andreas Schwab
2021-01-27 14:37                       ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-27 16:22                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-28  0:10                           ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-28 13:38                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-25 19:30                 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-25 19:53                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-27 14:31                     ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-27 14:44                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-28  3:34                         ` Andy Moreton
2021-01-27 16:20                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-29 17:47                         ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-01  8:45                           ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-01 15:09                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-24 22:09     ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-25 19:14       ` Stephen Leake [this message]
2021-01-27 11:10         ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-27 14:31           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-28  0:05           ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-24 20:19   ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-24  2:59 ` Dmitry Gutov

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