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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	Gabriel do Nascimento Ribeiro <gabriel376@hotmail.com>
Cc: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Omitting :group    [was: master 7936c8a: * lisp/mb-depth.el (minibuffer-depth-indicator): New face.]
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 15:41:28 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86c3f5d3-b2be-4573-a7a5-0c8d94c0d193@default> (raw)

> This change causes a byte-compilation warning:
>   In toplevel form:
>   mb-depth.el:38:1: Warning: defface for
>   `minibuffer-depth-indicator' fails to specify
>   containing group

IMHO, we should adopt and promote a guideline
that it's a good, not a bad, idea to always
include an explicit `:group'.

I think that Stefan is quite opposed to this,
and he even goes to the trouble of removing
"unnecessary" `:group's.  Why?

AFAIK, the only advantage to omitting `:group'
is a little less verbose code.

The advantages to _not_ omitting `:group' are:

1. Local clarity - no need to look elsewhere.

2. Ability to move the thing elsewhere - its
   behavior/meaning wrt :group won't depend on
   its location.

To me, those advantages to not omitting `:group'
far outweigh the disadvantage.  But please point
out any advantage of omitting `:group' that I
may have missed.

It's good that `:group' is optional.  But it's
also good to get in the habit of not omitting
it, IMO, and that's a good practice to encourage.



             reply	other threads:[~2021-01-07 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-07 15:41 Drew Adams [this message]
2021-01-07 15:54 ` Omitting :group [was: master 7936c8a: * lisp/mb-depth.el (minibuffer-depth-indicator): New face.] Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<86c3f5d3-b2be-4573-a7a5-0c8d94c0d193@default>
     [not found] ` <<838s94lp35.fsf@gnu.org>
2021-01-07 16:18   ` Drew Adams

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