From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, acm@muc.de, juri@linkov.net, casouri@gmail.com,
larsi@gnus.org, theo@thornhill.no, jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Make all tree-sitter modes optional
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2023 17:42:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83pma939c4.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvbklt1y4j.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:41:20 -0500)
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, acm@muc.de, juri@linkov.net, casouri@gmail.com,
> larsi@gnus.org, theo@thornhill.no, jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net,
> emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:41:20 -0500
>
> But with my patch, trying the modes is exactly the same (just `M-x
> c-ts-mode`) and turning them on in their customization is no harder
> (since `(c-ts-activate)` is no harder to type than `(require
> 'c-ts-mode)`
Sorry, I don't buy this argument.
> we could also make it a global minor mode so it can be
> done via Custom if it's considered important).
This was considered already, but had its own issues. And we have ran
out of time needed to look for better solutions. (I personally don't
believe there are any that weren't already proposed.)
> I spent a lot of time educating ELisp package maintainers about the need
> to make sure that merely loading a file doesn't change Emacs's behavior,
> and that `require` should basically never be needed in `.emacs` file.
We'll have to make this one exception to the rule. The situation
itself is exceptional and probably won't happen again soon, if ever.
> Replace `C-h o` with `C-h f` and the same holds.
So be it. (And restarting Emacs solves that as well.)
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2023-01-15 14:01 ` Make all tree-sitter modes optional Eli Zaretskii
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2023-01-16 7:43 ` Theodor Thornhill
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2023-01-16 12:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2023-01-17 18:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17 18:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-17 18:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17 18:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-17 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17 19:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-18 1:11 ` Yuan Fu
2023-01-18 1:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-18 3:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-18 3:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-18 12:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-18 14:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-18 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-18 12:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-17 17:34 ` treesit-forward-sexp (was: Make all tree-sitter modes optional) Juri Linkov
2023-01-17 17:40 ` Theodor Thornhill
2023-01-17 18:17 ` treesit-forward-sexp Juri Linkov
2023-01-17 17:50 ` treesit-forward-sexp (was: Make all tree-sitter modes optional) Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-17 17:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-16 1:12 ` Make all tree-sitter modes optional Po Lu
2023-01-17 17:30 ` Juri Linkov
2023-01-17 17:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17 18:19 ` Juri Linkov
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2023-02-17 14:22 ` Po Lu
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2023-02-15 19:26 ` Stefan Monnier
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