From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, acm@muc.de, juri@linkov.net, casouri@gmail.com,
larsi@gnus.org, theo@thornhill.no, jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Make all tree-sitter modes optional
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2023 22:06:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <837cwiae2c.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvk00i3dym.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Wed, 15 Feb 2023 14:53:09 -0500)
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, acm@muc.de, juri@linkov.net, casouri@gmail.com,
> larsi@gnus.org, theo@thornhill.no, jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net,
> emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2023 14:53:09 -0500
>
> > We never do -- except in this case. Practical considerations trump
> > elegance, at least sometimes.
>
> The convention is not one of elegance but one of pragmatic concerns,
> because files can get loaded unexpectedly.
>
> (c-ts-activate) is no harder to write than (require 'c-ts-mode)
This is not about harder at all.
> I really can't see the "practical consideration" that justifies
> such a decision.
Well, I do. And I explained this several times already in the past,
so from my POV this issue is closed for Emacs 29. After the release
we should revisit this and related stuff, based on what we hear from
the users.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-15 20:06 UTC|newest]
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2023-01-15 14:01 ` Make all tree-sitter modes optional Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-15 23:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-16 7:43 ` Theodor Thornhill
2023-01-16 16:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-16 12:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-16 13:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-16 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-16 14:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-16 14:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17 12:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-17 13:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17 14:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-17 14:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17 15:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-17 17:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17 17:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-17 17:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17 17:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-17 18:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17 18:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-17 18:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17 18:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-17 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17 19:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-18 1:11 ` Yuan Fu
2023-01-18 1:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-18 3:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-18 3:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-18 12:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-18 14:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-18 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-18 12:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-17 17:34 ` treesit-forward-sexp (was: Make all tree-sitter modes optional) Juri Linkov
2023-01-17 17:40 ` Theodor Thornhill
2023-01-17 18:17 ` treesit-forward-sexp Juri Linkov
2023-01-17 17:50 ` treesit-forward-sexp (was: Make all tree-sitter modes optional) Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-17 17:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-16 1:12 ` Make all tree-sitter modes optional Po Lu
2023-01-17 17:30 ` Juri Linkov
2023-01-17 17:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17 18:19 ` Juri Linkov
2023-01-17 18:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-14 19:08 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-14 19:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-14 21:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-15 15:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-15 17:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-15 18:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-15 20:31 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-16 5:41 ` tomas
2023-02-16 7:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-16 22:05 ` Yuan Fu
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2023-02-15 20:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2023-02-16 7:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-16 8:52 ` Po Lu
2023-02-15 21:40 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-17 13:30 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-17 13:37 ` Po Lu
2023-02-17 13:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-17 14:16 ` Po Lu
2023-02-17 14:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-17 14:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-02-17 15:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2023-02-17 15:41 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-17 16:04 ` Make all tree-sitter modes optional Stefan Kangas
2023-02-17 17:42 ` Morgan Willcock
2023-02-17 15:15 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-02-17 13:54 ` Alan Mackenzie
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2023-02-17 14:22 ` Po Lu
2023-02-17 14:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-17 15:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-15 18:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-15 19:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-02-15 19:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-15 19:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-15 19:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-15 20:06 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-02-15 21:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-16 7:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-16 9:49 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2023-02-16 11:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-16 14:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-16 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-16 16:45 ` Stefan Monnier
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2023-02-16 19:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-02-16 20:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-16 5:45 ` tomas
2023-02-16 8:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-16 10:30 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-16 12:38 ` Po Lu
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2023-02-15 20:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-02-16 7:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-16 7:53 ` Theodor Thornhill
2023-02-16 8:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-16 8:46 ` Theodor Thornhill
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2023-02-16 2:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-15 19:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-15 19:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-15 21:06 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2023-02-16 7:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-15 18:25 ` Juri Linkov
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2023-01-21 11:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-22 6:23 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2023-01-22 6:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
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