From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, mardani29@yahoo.es
Subject: Re: Entering emojis
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2021 09:19:07 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83mtmrox0k.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v91fschk.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sat, 30 Oct 2021 00:16:39 +0200)
> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
> emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2021 00:16:39 +0200
>
> A more ticklish question is what we should do with out string primitives
> (if anything). For instance:
>
> (string-limit "Hello, 👨🏽❤️💋👨🏾" 8)
> => "Hello, 👨"
>
> and
>
> (truncate-string-to-width "👨🏽❤️💋👨🏾" 2 nil t)
> => "👨"
Nothing, they should "just work", barring bugs.
What does string-width return for this string on your system?
> which is... uhm... In a way, this grapheme cluster thing is slightly
> like it was during the shift to utf-8, when not all string primitives
> worked on characters, but bytes instead. Less dramatic, of course, but.
>
> I think we'll be seeing many amusing display glitches in this area. 🥲
We shouldn't, because string-width already supports composed text.
There's always one more bug, of course, but there are no design
problems here, AFAICT. Emoji sequences are just one special case of
character composition, that's all. So this is nothing like a switch
to multibyte characters, at least not in theory.
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2021-10-25 18:32 Entering emojis Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 18:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-25 19:21 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-25 19:36 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 19:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-25 19:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 20:14 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-25 20:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-26 2:01 ` Howard Melman
2021-10-26 2:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-26 3:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-26 9:10 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-26 11:50 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-26 14:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-27 12:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-27 13:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-26 15:46 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-26 16:09 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-26 16:36 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-26 16:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-26 16:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-26 17:36 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-26 16:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-26 17:09 ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-26 17:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-26 17:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-26 17:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 12:44 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-26 17:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-26 17:54 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-26 18:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-26 17:55 ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-26 18:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-26 17:46 ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-26 17:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-26 18:07 ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-26 18:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-26 18:18 ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-26 18:24 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-26 19:18 ` describe-char on emoji sequences Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-26 19:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-26 19:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-27 13:35 ` James Cloos
2021-10-27 13:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-27 15:07 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-27 15:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-27 15:59 ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-27 16:11 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-27 16:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 16:12 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-27 16:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-27 16:34 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-27 16:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 16:43 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-27 17:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 17:32 ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-27 19:40 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-27 19:48 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-27 16:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 16:36 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-27 17:08 ` James Cloos
2021-10-27 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 17:36 ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-27 18:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-28 7:02 ` James Cloos
2021-10-28 7:46 ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-28 9:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-28 9:39 ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-28 9:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-28 19:24 ` James Cloos
2021-10-28 19:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-28 12:21 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-28 12:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-27 13:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 13:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 14:25 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-27 16:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 17:30 ` T.V Raman
2021-10-28 14:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-28 23:17 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-26 16:45 ` Entering emojis Stefan Kangas
2021-10-26 17:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-26 18:39 ` William Xu
2021-10-26 19:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-26 20:41 ` Broken Stefan Kangas
2021-10-26 21:12 ` Entering emojis Stefan Kangas
2021-10-27 1:38 ` Howard Melman
2021-10-27 8:27 ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-10-27 8:51 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-27 14:14 ` T.V Raman
2021-10-27 15:14 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-27 17:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 16:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 17:50 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-27 18:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 18:38 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-27 18:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 18:56 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-27 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 19:20 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-28 5:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-28 6:50 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-28 9:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-28 9:37 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-28 9:39 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-28 10:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-28 10:05 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-28 10:25 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-28 10:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-28 11:20 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-28 13:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-28 13:55 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-28 16:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-28 17:06 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-28 17:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-28 21:10 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-29 7:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-29 10:32 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-29 10:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-28 21:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-29 7:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-29 12:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-29 13:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 5:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-05 7:56 ` Ligature support (was: Entering emojis) Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 13:42 ` Ligature support Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-05 14:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 14:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-05 15:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 15:20 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-05 15:26 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-05 15:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-05 16:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 15:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 15:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-05 15:56 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-05 16:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 16:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 16:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-05 17:05 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-05 17:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-05 18:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 22:17 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-06 7:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 18:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-05 20:09 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-05 22:20 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-06 9:01 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-05 17:13 ` tomas
2021-11-05 19:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 19:52 ` tomas
2021-11-05 20:16 ` Werner LEMBERG
2021-11-05 20:18 ` tomas
2021-11-05 20:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 20:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 9:16 ` tomas
2021-11-06 9:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 20:43 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-05 20:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 17:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-05 18:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 19:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 22:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-05 22:50 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-05 23:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-06 8:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 18:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-06 18:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 5:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-06 8:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-12 20:28 ` chad
2021-11-15 4:51 ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-15 6:19 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-18 3:50 ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-15 12:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 7:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 18:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-06 18:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 13:25 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2021-11-06 13:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 17:03 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2021-11-06 17:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 19:23 ` Entering emojis Gregory Heytings
2021-10-28 5:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 14:16 ` T.V Raman
2021-10-27 12:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 12:27 ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-27 11:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 12:36 ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-27 13:07 ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-27 13:09 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-27 13:26 ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-27 13:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-08 19:52 ` chad
2021-11-08 19:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 13:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 15:12 ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-27 16:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 17:00 ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-27 13:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 13:28 ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-27 14:06 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-27 14:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2021-10-25 20:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2021-10-29 10:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2021-10-27 16:27 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-27 16:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 15:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-27 16:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-27 16:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 16:27 ` Stefan Kangas
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2021-10-28 12:56 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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