From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: owinebar@gmail.com, acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why tree-sitter instead of Semantic? (was Re: CC Mode with font-lock-maximum-decoration 2)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 05:42:12 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83fsi4sttn.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874jykzvx9.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Wed, 10 Aug 2022 10:14:58 +0800)
> From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>, emacs-devel
> <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 10:14:58 +0800
>
> Lynn Winebarger <owinebar@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > I'm curious, though, as to why Semantic/CEDET seems to have been
> > superceded by external solutions like tree-sitter or LSP-based
> > (non-emacs) servers. One of the draws of Emacs for me is the
> > "batteries included" nature of it having Emacs Lisp built in. Is
> > there a downside to using Semantic as the basis for improving my
> > derived mode that's non-obvious?
>
> I think Semantic lost intertia after the original author lost interest
> in it (or left for unrelated reasons, I don't remember which.)
It is simply too slow to be a modern solution for these features.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-10 2:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 136+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-06 20:13 Major modes using `widen' is a good, even essential, programming practice Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-06 21:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-08-07 6:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-07 13:31 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-08-07 14:13 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-07 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-07 14:59 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-07 15:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-07 17:01 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-07 17:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-07 17:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-08-07 18:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-07 18:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-08-07 18:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-07 23:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-08-07 18:49 ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-08-07 18:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-07 18:56 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-07 19:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-07 19:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-08-08 2:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-08 9:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-08 11:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-08 15:05 ` CC Mode with font-lock-maximum-decoration 2 [Was Major modes using `widen' is a good, even essential, programming practice.] Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-08 15:51 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-08-08 16:05 ` CC Mode with font-lock-maximum-decoration 2 Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-08 16:50 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-08-09 19:49 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-08-08 17:15 ` CC Mode with font-lock-maximum-decoration 2 [Was Major modes using `widen' is a good, even essential, programming practice.] Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-08 17:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-08 18:41 ` CC Mode with font-lock-maximum-decoration 2 Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-08 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-08 19:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-09 2:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-09 8:00 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-09 11:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-09 11:24 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-09 11:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-09 16:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-09 16:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-09 17:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-09 17:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-10 0:22 ` Why tree-sitter instead of Semantic? (was Re: CC Mode with font-lock-maximum-decoration 2) Lynn Winebarger
2022-08-10 2:14 ` Po Lu
2022-08-10 2:42 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-08-10 10:05 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-08-10 10:49 ` Po Lu
2022-08-10 11:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-12 12:37 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-08-12 12:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-12 21:50 ` Ideal performance of ELisp (was: Why tree-sitter instead of Semantic? (was Re: CC Mode with font-lock-maximum-decoration 2)) Stefan Monnier
2022-08-12 23:26 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-08-13 2:11 ` Ideal performance of ELisp Stefan Monnier
2022-08-13 10:51 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-08-13 11:13 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-08-13 14:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-08-13 14:56 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-08-16 16:46 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-08-16 17:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-08-17 12:41 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-08-17 14:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-08-17 14:19 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-08-17 22:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-08-17 14:25 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-08-13 4:39 ` Ideal performance of ELisp (was: Why tree-sitter instead of Semantic? (was Re: CC Mode with font-lock-maximum-decoration 2)) Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-13 7:45 ` Ideal performance of ELisp Philip Kaludercic
2022-08-13 11:58 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-13 14:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-08-14 9:25 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-08-14 9:34 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-14 13:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-16 19:23 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-08-14 13:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-08-16 8:59 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-08-16 9:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-16 18:21 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-08-17 9:48 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-17 12:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-16 15:06 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-08-16 18:24 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-08-17 13:04 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-08-17 14:18 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-08-18 12:17 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-08-12 16:00 ` Why tree-sitter instead of Semantic? (was Re: CC Mode with font-lock-maximum-decoration 2) Akib Azmain Turja
2022-08-12 19:06 ` tomas
2022-08-13 4:41 ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-08-13 5:14 ` tomas
2022-08-13 11:57 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-08-13 14:28 ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-08-14 19:24 ` Eric Ludlam
2022-08-16 10:42 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-08-17 1:56 ` Eric Ludlam
2022-08-10 17:03 ` Tassilo Horn
2022-08-13 14:40 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2022-08-14 1:23 ` Po Lu
2022-08-16 9:06 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-08-16 11:05 ` Po Lu
2022-08-16 11:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-16 16:33 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-08-16 17:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-08-16 17:40 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-08-17 1:41 ` Eric Ludlam
2022-08-18 12:34 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-08-20 13:15 ` Eric Ludlam
2022-08-08 18:20 ` CC Mode with font-lock-maximum-decoration 2 Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-07 20:17 ` Major modes using `widen' is a good, even essential, programming practice Gregory Heytings
2022-08-07 20:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-07 20:53 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-08-08 2:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-08 10:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-08 11:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-07 23:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-08-08 2:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-08 9:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-08-08 11:16 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-08-08 11:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-08 14:24 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-08-08 11:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-08 12:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-08-08 12:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-08 17:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-08-08 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-08 21:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-08-09 11:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-09 14:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-08-09 16:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-09 16:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-08-09 17:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-09 18:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-08-09 19:46 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-08-08 10:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-08 11:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-08 10:41 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-08-07 17:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-08-22 11:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-22 23:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
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