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From: Ognyan Kulev <ogi@fmi.uni-sofia.bg>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: TUTORIAL.bg and windows-1251
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:49:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FBA3F81.4010602@fmi.uni-sofia.bg> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200311170721.QAA11735@etlken.m17n.org>

Kenichi Handa wrote:
> I think the default handling of cyrillic characters must be
> most convenient for native users.  But, there are many
> languages that use cyrillic and their requests may conflict.
> So I think we must start from adjusting each language
> environment.  Once we found most language environments
> require the same setting, we can make it the default.

Can X encoding be adjusted?  Isn't there only two choices for cyrillic: 
iso10646-1 and iso8859-5?

> For instance, what font Bulgarian people mostly use on X
> Window for Cyrillic characters?  Is it iso8859-5 font?

Well, most use Microsoft Core fonts ;-)  (For example, Vera fonts don't 
have cyrillic.)  The next one, suitable for Emacs, is cronyx-courier[1]. 
  I don't know of other fonts that are often used.  Both of these fonts 
has various encodings: iso10646-1, microsoft-cp1251, koi8-r and iso8859-5.

[1] Sorry for not providing link, but http://packages.debian.org don't 
work right now.  From there, you can type "xfonts-cronyx" and search for 
all packages whose name contains this string.  Home page is 
http://oldrus-ispell.sourceforge.net/

So it's best to focus on cronyx-courier.  It's part of a package, 
bglinux, that many bulgarians use.  The other half of the bulgarians use 
Debian, because maintainer of bglinux (Anton Zinoviev) is maintainer for 
xfonts-cronyx-* packages in Debian.  All of bglinux is already part of 
Debian.

The negative site of Debian packages is that each encoding of the four 
above mentioned has its own package.  So people sometimes install only 
microsoft-cp1251 and iso10646-1 fonts, without koi8-r and iso8859-5 ones.

Another problem with cronyx-courier is that it doesn't work when it's 
set in Default in Basic Faces customize group.  I've just posted 
question to comp.emacs.

What about the following: when mule-unicode-0100-24ff is used and the 
used iso10646-1 font doesn't contain wanted character (e.g. cyrillic 
one), then another font is searched that contains such character.  I 
think this will often end up in cronyx-courier.  Is this hard to be 
implemented?

Regards
-- 
Ognyan Kulev <ogi@{fmi.uni-sofia.bg,fsa-bg.org,jabber.net}>
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  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-18 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-14 18:56 TUTORIAL.bg and windows-1251 Ognyan Kulev
2003-11-15 12:19 ` Ognyan Kulev
2003-11-26  7:33   ` Ognyan Kulev
2003-11-15 14:24 ` Jason Rumney
2003-11-17  7:21 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-18 15:49   ` Ognyan Kulev [this message]
2003-11-24 23:55     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-26  7:16       ` Ognyan Kulev
2003-11-26  7:47         ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-26  8:30           ` Ognyan Kulev
2003-11-26 13:17             ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-26 14:08               ` Ognyan Kulev
2003-12-03  8:34               ` Kenichi Handa
2003-12-04 16:28                 ` Ognyan Kulev
2003-12-04 23:28                   ` Kenichi Handa
2003-12-31 15:06                     ` Ognyan Kulev
2003-12-31 15:54                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-01-05  4:20                         ` Kenichi Handa
2004-01-05  4:14                       ` Kenichi Handa
2004-01-06 12:03                         ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2004-01-07  0:25                           ` Kenichi Handa
2004-01-07  1:32                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2004-01-07 16:22                         ` Ognyan Kulev
2004-01-07 23:58                           ` Kenichi Handa
2004-01-09 16:10                             ` Ognyan Kulev
2004-01-13  4:07                               ` Kenichi Handa
2004-01-14 11:42                                 ` Ognyan Kulev
2004-01-14 12:10                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2004-01-17 19:31                                     ` Ognyan Kulev
2004-01-19  0:34                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2004-01-21  6:45                                         ` Ognyan Kulev
2004-01-21 10:52                                           ` Kenichi Handa

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