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From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: TUTORIAL.bg and windows-1251
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:17:12 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200311261317.WAA27673@etlken.m17n.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3FC464C2.7010504@fmi.uni-sofia.bg> (message from Ognyan Kulev on Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:30:58 +0200)

In article <3FC464C2.7010504@fmi.uni-sofia.bg>, Ognyan Kulev <ogi@fmi.uni-sofia.bg> writes:
>>  Have you tested copy&paste of Cyrillic text between Emacs
>>  and the other applications (e.g. Mozilla)?  Did it work well?

> I've tested it now and it worked well in both directions.

Thank you for confirming it.   I'll install that change next
week (I must go to Kyoto soon).

>>  But, if he is not in a lang. env. that mainly uses
>>  windows-1251, I think we can't assume that he want to see
>>  them in microsoft-cp1251 font.  I think the possibility that
>>  he has iso10646 font is higher.

> You're right.  But we return back to the initial problem: I have 
> -monotype-courier new-*-iso10646-1 and -cronyx-courier-*-iso10646-1, 
> both with cyrillic characters.  But instead of these, 
> -adobe-courier-*-iso10646-1 is used, which hasn't cyrillic characters. 
> And I think that this -adobe-courier-*-iso10646-1 is part of XFree86, so 
> it's almost everywhere and f^Hruins everything.  

Don't you have -misc-fixed-*-iso10646-1?  They contains
cyrillic characters.  I thought they are included in the
latest XFree86.  At least my debian and redhat have them.

By the way, you can inhibit using
-adobe-courier-*-iso10646-1 by specifying it in
face-ignored-fonts.  Please try this.

(setq face-ignored-fonts '(("-adobe-courier-.*-iso10646-1")))

> IMHO cyrillic 
> characters in windows-1251 has to be mapped to koi8-r or iso8859-5 font 
>   (when not in Bulgarian lang.env.), instead of iso10646-1 font.  But 
> which of these two fonts is more popular world-wide -- I don't know.

It seems that both koi8-r and iso8859-5 doesn't covers all
characters in windows-1251.  Then, I think iso10646-1 is
better (as far as it contains cyrillic chars).

>>  By the way, I'm now designing a facility to use
>>  microsoft-cp1251 for Cyrillic characters automatically in
>>  Bulgarian lang. env. by implementing something like this.

> Given that Bulgarian language environment is automatically selected when 
> LANG=bg_BG,

Yes.

>  I'm completely satisfied with this.

Ok, I'll keep on working on it.

---
Ken'ichi HANDA
handa@m17n.org

  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-26 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-14 18:56 TUTORIAL.bg and windows-1251 Ognyan Kulev
2003-11-15 12:19 ` Ognyan Kulev
2003-11-26  7:33   ` Ognyan Kulev
2003-11-15 14:24 ` Jason Rumney
2003-11-17  7:21 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-18 15:49   ` Ognyan Kulev
2003-11-24 23:55     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-26  7:16       ` Ognyan Kulev
2003-11-26  7:47         ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-26  8:30           ` Ognyan Kulev
2003-11-26 13:17             ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2003-11-26 14:08               ` Ognyan Kulev
2003-12-03  8:34               ` Kenichi Handa
2003-12-04 16:28                 ` Ognyan Kulev
2003-12-04 23:28                   ` Kenichi Handa
2003-12-31 15:06                     ` Ognyan Kulev
2003-12-31 15:54                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-01-05  4:20                         ` Kenichi Handa
2004-01-05  4:14                       ` Kenichi Handa
2004-01-06 12:03                         ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2004-01-07  0:25                           ` Kenichi Handa
2004-01-07  1:32                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2004-01-07 16:22                         ` Ognyan Kulev
2004-01-07 23:58                           ` Kenichi Handa
2004-01-09 16:10                             ` Ognyan Kulev
2004-01-13  4:07                               ` Kenichi Handa
2004-01-14 11:42                                 ` Ognyan Kulev
2004-01-14 12:10                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2004-01-17 19:31                                     ` Ognyan Kulev
2004-01-19  0:34                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2004-01-21  6:45                                         ` Ognyan Kulev
2004-01-21 10:52                                           ` Kenichi Handa

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