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From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>
To: Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>
Cc: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	 Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name>,
	 Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
	Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>,
	 emacs-devel@gnu.org, Hugo Heagren <hugo@heagren.com>
Subject: Re: master 6a2ee981c3: Add new functions for splitting the root window
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2022 10:51:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2b58b8f542164fb650cd@heytings.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP_d_8UpN3ZOvLX-tqs6szYWH+gi341iuTfzS33+BRWmvEARvA@mail.gmail.com>

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>> We cannot draw a conclusion from a single example, and AFAIU the 
>> screenshot you show does not tell that "x" is used to maximize a window 
>> but only that, when that menu is opened, you can select its "maximize" 
>> entry by pressing "x".
>
> How many examples do you want? Windows, KDE, Xfce, pretty much every one 
> with the concept of a window operations menu.
>
> Yes, those are menu item mnemonics, not direct bindings, because no 
> window manager is going to steal character input for window operations. 
> You typically invoke the menu with Alt+Space, then use the mnemonic; in 
> this use, it is similar to Emacs’s prefix maps.
>

I don't use any of these window managers myself, which is why I asked for 
examples.  I misunderstood his answer, and did not realize that users 
could use a window menu the way you describe it.

>
> Alternatively, the CUA standard used to specify Alt+F10 for maximization 
> and Alt+F9 for minimization; Xfce still honors that in default 
> keybindings.
>

These are the kind of key bindings I had in mind, and a few Google 
searches showed a great variety of bindings accross window managers.

Anyway, it seems to me that this is tangent to the discussion.  The fact 
that some users use M-SPC x (in Emacs key notation) to maximize a frame 
(in Emacs parlance) does not seem to be a good reason to use the 'x' key 
to toggle the maximization of windows in Emacs.  At least I'll continue to 
use the 'm' key in my configuration for that purpose.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-14 10:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20220905185728.838CEC0088A@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
2022-09-06 16:17   ` master 6a2ee981c3: Add new functions for splitting the root window Juri Linkov
2022-09-07  0:32     ` Sean Whitton
2022-09-07 12:57     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-07 18:01       ` Juri Linkov
2022-09-08 11:50         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-08 12:09           ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-08 12:18             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-08 14:54               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-09-10 19:27               ` Juri Linkov
2022-09-11 11:03                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-11 17:48                   ` Sean Whitton
2022-09-11 18:31                     ` chad
2022-09-12 10:00                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-12 14:10                         ` Sean Whitton
2022-09-13 11:11                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-13 13:52                             ` Sean Whitton
2022-09-13 13:56                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-13 14:12                                 ` Sean Whitton
2022-09-14 12:29                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-14 13:49                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-14 16:37                                       ` Sean Whitton
2022-09-14 16:37                                     ` Sean Whitton
2022-09-12 14:29                         ` Visuwesh
2022-09-12 10:04                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-12 14:35                       ` Sean Whitton
2022-09-13  4:08                       ` Richard Stallman
2022-09-13 14:29                         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-09-12 17:34                     ` Juri Linkov
2022-09-12 18:57                       ` Sean Whitton
2022-09-12 19:31                         ` Juri Linkov
2022-09-13 14:01                           ` Sean Whitton
2022-09-13 18:29                             ` Juri Linkov
2022-09-13 22:12                               ` Sean Whitton
2022-09-14  6:53                                 ` Juri Linkov
2022-09-14 16:52                                   ` Sean Whitton
2022-09-14 19:22                                     ` Juri Linkov
2022-09-14 23:06                                       ` Sean Whitton
2022-09-15  5:45                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-15 16:14                                           ` Sean Whitton
2022-09-12 17:50                     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-09-12 18:55                       ` Sean Whitton
2022-09-12 19:29                         ` Juri Linkov
2022-09-12 23:40                           ` Sean Whitton
2022-09-13  6:50                             ` Juri Linkov
2022-09-13 13:54                               ` Sean Whitton
2022-09-13  9:33                       ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-13 11:14                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-13 13:51                         ` Sean Whitton
2022-09-13 14:01                           ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-13 14:19                             ` Sean Whitton
2022-09-13 14:26                               ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-13 15:22                               ` Yuri Khan
2022-09-13 16:33                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-13 17:09                                   ` Yuri Khan
2022-09-13 18:16                         ` Juri Linkov
2022-09-13 19:28                           ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-14  6:47                             ` Juri Linkov
2022-09-14  8:13                               ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-14  9:21                                 ` Yuri Khan
2022-09-14 10:51                                   ` Gregory Heytings [this message]
2022-09-14 12:11                                     ` Yuri Khan
2022-09-15  7:19                         ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-09-16 14:30                           ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-16 15:03                             ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-09-19  6:53                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-09-08 12:22           ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-08 14:54           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-09-08 17:25           ` Juri Linkov
2022-09-09 17:07             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-09 17:25               ` Visuwesh
2022-09-09 17:36                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-11  3:37                 ` Richard Stallman
2022-09-19 23:55                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-09-20  6:50                     ` Juri Linkov
2022-09-20  7:47                       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-09-20 16:06                         ` Juri Linkov
2022-09-20 21:24                           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-09-21 18:41                             ` Juri Linkov
2022-09-21 21:16                               ` Emanuel Berg
2022-09-09 17:53               ` Stefan Monnier

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