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From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 20:19:58 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200921171958.GB3551@protected.rcdrun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F7D7A5B6-BCFE-4BA7-B3CC-113F58BDCB96@aol.com>

* Ergus <spacibba@aol.com> [2020-09-20 03:45]:
> There have been too many years of licences nobody reads and msoffice useless splash. So people now install the programs just pressing next next next accept.
> 
> The problem is that 90% of the cases the information there is pretty useless (publicity, license, offers for an account) so most people assume that in our case it will be the same and usually ignores that.

I am not sure how you come to seach information, as it is very
general. I could present Emacs to various people and see if they have
read the splash screen, and then after 5 or 10 attempts, I could have
statistics, who read what, if they found that there is Tutorial or
not, or what else they remembered and if they have read the splash
page.

With 100 people in the test, such information would be valuable
statistics.

Without mass of people tested randomly, it is harder to say that splash
is useless for people because it was maybe useless for one msoffice
user.

I can speak for myself, as it is hard to speak for others, so I know
that I was reading licenses of proprietary software before 1999, and I
know that I was reading everything that Emacs had to offer, from
splash screen, Tutorials in few languages, and GNU news and anything
else, I did read it, and that is how I got fascinated with the free
software. 

-- 
Thanks,
Jean Louis



  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-09-21 17:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-17  8:50 A proposal for a friendlier Emacs Nicola Manca
2020-09-17  9:04 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-17  9:27   ` Nicola Manca
2020-09-17 12:24     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-17 12:35       ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-17 13:22         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-17 13:26           ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-17 13:31             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-17 13:34               ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-17 14:27                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-18 16:49                   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-09-18 18:25                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-18 18:59                       ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-18 19:23                         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-19  8:37                           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-19  9:21                             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-19 11:25                           ` Stefan Kangas
2020-09-19 15:09                             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-19 19:31                               ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-19 19:59                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-19 21:37                                   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-20  6:22                                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-20  7:45                                   ` Ergus via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-20  8:13                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20  8:25                                       ` Ergus
2020-09-21 17:19                                     ` Jean Louis [this message]
2020-09-22 12:59                                       ` Ergus
2020-09-22 14:11                                         ` Jean Louis
2020-09-22 17:50                                           ` Colin Baxter
2020-09-22 18:08                                             ` Mingde (Matthew) Zeng
2020-09-22 19:12                                               ` Colin Baxter
2020-09-19 21:04                                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-19 21:26                                   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-20  6:21                                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-19  8:30                         ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-19 15:50                         ` Philip K.
2020-09-20  3:53                     ` 황병희
2020-09-17 13:38             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-17 12:40       ` Nicholas Savage
2020-09-17 13:22         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-17 13:28         ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-17 19:40         ` Mingde (Matthew) Zeng
2020-09-17  9:07 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-17  9:32   ` Nicola Manca
2020-09-17  9:44     ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-21 20:00       ` Alexander Adolf
2020-09-22  3:38         ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-22 20:50           ` Alexander Adolf
2020-09-22 21:54             ` Drew Adams
2020-09-23 14:20               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23 14:16             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-25 13:22               ` Alexander Adolf
2020-09-25 13:39                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-25 14:43                   ` Alexander Adolf
2020-09-25 15:05                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-26  4:35                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-29 17:08                         ` Alexander Adolf
2020-09-29 17:38                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-30 20:40                             ` Alexander Adolf
2020-10-01 12:55                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01 16:13                                 ` Alexander Adolf
2020-10-01 16:18                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01 16:49                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-01 17:23                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01 17:57                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-02 16:10                                     ` Alexander Adolf
2020-10-02  3:51                                   ` Classifying packages Richard Stallman
2020-09-22  3:38         ` A proposal for a friendlier Emacs Richard Stallman
2020-09-22 20:57           ` Alexander Adolf
2020-09-23  3:44             ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-25 12:40               ` Alexander Adolf
2020-09-25 15:22                 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-26  4:33                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-26 14:29                     ` Drew Adams
2020-09-27  2:43                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-27 19:49                         ` Drew Adams
2020-09-28  3:49                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-28  4:50                             ` Drew Adams
2020-09-28 22:03                             ` Jean Louis
2020-09-29  2:32                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-29  2:35                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-29  4:16                                 ` Jean Louis
2020-09-29  5:35                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-29  5:45                                     ` Jean Louis
2020-09-29 14:24                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-29 15:21                                         ` Jean Louis
2020-10-20 13:07                                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-20 15:32                                             ` Jean Louis
2020-10-27  4:32                                               ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-27  7:50                                                 ` Jean Louis
2020-09-29  7:19                                   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-29  7:55                                     ` Jean Louis
2020-09-29  8:23                                       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-29  8:27                                         ` Jean Louis
2020-09-29 15:07                                         ` Jean Louis
2020-09-29 14:20                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-30 18:36                                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-30 19:25                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-30 19:50                                         ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-01  7:27                                           ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-01 13:10                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01 14:10                                               ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-01 12:44                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01 14:19                                           ` Jean Louis
2020-10-02  3:51                                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-02  6:59                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01 14:13                                       ` Jean Louis
2020-10-01 14:48                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01 16:05                                           ` dictionary.el could be included in main stream Emacs - " Jean Louis
2020-10-02 11:40                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-04 17:36                                               ` Torsten Hilbrich
2020-10-01 18:47                                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-28 22:05                             ` Jean Louis
2020-09-21 17:07 ` Jean Louis
2020-09-22  3:40   ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-22  6:22     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-23  3:43       ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-22  6:24     ` Jean Louis
2020-09-22 14:10       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 14:22         ` Jean Louis
2020-09-22 14:31           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 14:52             ` Jean Louis
2020-09-22 15:34               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 16:03                 ` Jean Louis
2020-09-22 16:33                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23  3:41           ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-22 15:44         ` Jean Louis
2020-09-23  3:41         ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-23 14:21           ` Eli Zaretskii

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