From: ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt)
To: Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org>
Cc: nicola.manca85@gmail.com, stefankangas@gmail.com,
thibaut.verron@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 02:21:58 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1kJsjW-0004gt-SJ@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xjfft7do3uj.fsf@sdf.org> (message from Andrea Corallo on Sat, 19 Sep 2020 21:26:28 +0000)
> If the few paragraphs on the splash screen are deemed "too much
> information" then why would they read any other page?!
>
> Lets not assume that users are that lazy ...
IMO is quite a realistic scenario, so I'll assume that.
From my experience, that is absolutley not the case. It is the first
step to the tutorial, and the manual.
> We are talking about the splash screen, not a menu. The suggestion
> (as I understood it) was to replace the splash screen with a wizard if
> and only if there was no .emacs (or similar). Then do magic to
> somehow keep track if a user had "picked" a provided configuration
> (vanilla, different, or configuration wizard) of Emacs. Only then,
> would you get the current splash screen when you start emacs.
>
> That is a strange behaviour, and very much annoying one to keep track
> of.
Sorry I have hard time imaging experienced users regularly using the
splash screen to open files, I find surprising this is your experience.
I use it all the time when I'm extra lazy or showing new users to use emacs.
It is sometimes easier to use the mouse when you're already using the
mouse; the benefit is also that you get the file dialog which you do
not get when you do find-file. Ditto with the menu bar, which has its
uses.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-20 6:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-17 8:50 A proposal for a friendlier Emacs Nicola Manca
2020-09-17 9:04 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-17 9:27 ` Nicola Manca
2020-09-17 12:24 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-17 12:35 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-17 13:22 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-17 13:26 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-17 13:31 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-17 13:34 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-17 14:27 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-18 16:49 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-09-18 18:25 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-18 18:59 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-18 19:23 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-19 8:37 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-19 9:21 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-19 11:25 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-09-19 15:09 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-19 19:31 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-19 19:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-19 21:37 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-20 6:22 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-20 7:45 ` Ergus via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-20 8:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20 8:25 ` Ergus
2020-09-21 17:19 ` Jean Louis
2020-09-22 12:59 ` Ergus
2020-09-22 14:11 ` Jean Louis
2020-09-22 17:50 ` Colin Baxter
2020-09-22 18:08 ` Mingde (Matthew) Zeng
2020-09-22 19:12 ` Colin Baxter
2020-09-19 21:04 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-19 21:26 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-20 6:21 ` Alfred M. Szmidt [this message]
2020-09-19 8:30 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-19 15:50 ` Philip K.
2020-09-20 3:53 ` 황병희
2020-09-17 13:38 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-17 12:40 ` Nicholas Savage
2020-09-17 13:22 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-17 13:28 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-17 19:40 ` Mingde (Matthew) Zeng
2020-09-17 9:07 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-17 9:32 ` Nicola Manca
2020-09-17 9:44 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-21 20:00 ` Alexander Adolf
2020-09-22 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-22 20:50 ` Alexander Adolf
2020-09-22 21:54 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-23 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23 14:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-25 13:22 ` Alexander Adolf
2020-09-25 13:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-25 14:43 ` Alexander Adolf
2020-09-25 15:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-26 4:35 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-29 17:08 ` Alexander Adolf
2020-09-29 17:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-30 20:40 ` Alexander Adolf
2020-10-01 12:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01 16:13 ` Alexander Adolf
2020-10-01 16:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01 16:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-01 17:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01 17:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-02 16:10 ` Alexander Adolf
2020-10-02 3:51 ` Classifying packages Richard Stallman
2020-09-22 3:38 ` A proposal for a friendlier Emacs Richard Stallman
2020-09-22 20:57 ` Alexander Adolf
2020-09-23 3:44 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-25 12:40 ` Alexander Adolf
2020-09-25 15:22 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-26 4:33 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-26 14:29 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-27 2:43 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-27 19:49 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-28 3:49 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-28 4:50 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-28 22:03 ` Jean Louis
2020-09-29 2:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-29 2:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-29 4:16 ` Jean Louis
2020-09-29 5:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-29 5:45 ` Jean Louis
2020-09-29 14:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-29 15:21 ` Jean Louis
2020-10-20 13:07 ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-20 15:32 ` Jean Louis
2020-10-27 4:32 ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-27 7:50 ` Jean Louis
2020-09-29 7:19 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-29 7:55 ` Jean Louis
2020-09-29 8:23 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-29 8:27 ` Jean Louis
2020-09-29 15:07 ` Jean Louis
2020-09-29 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-30 18:36 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-30 19:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-30 19:50 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-01 7:27 ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-01 13:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01 14:10 ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-01 12:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01 14:19 ` Jean Louis
2020-10-02 3:51 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-02 6:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01 14:13 ` Jean Louis
2020-10-01 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01 16:05 ` dictionary.el could be included in main stream Emacs - " Jean Louis
2020-10-02 11:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-04 17:36 ` Torsten Hilbrich
2020-10-01 18:47 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-28 22:05 ` Jean Louis
2020-09-21 17:07 ` Jean Louis
2020-09-22 3:40 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-22 6:22 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-23 3:43 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-22 6:24 ` Jean Louis
2020-09-22 14:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 14:22 ` Jean Louis
2020-09-22 14:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 14:52 ` Jean Louis
2020-09-22 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 16:03 ` Jean Louis
2020-09-22 16:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23 3:41 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-22 15:44 ` Jean Louis
2020-09-23 3:41 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-23 14:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
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