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From: Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu>
Cc: dann@ics.uci.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: should xterm-mouse-mode be on by default?
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:23:49 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200504132323.j3DNNnM01197@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1DLmdp-0003fw-Nl@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Richard Stallman on Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:31:09 -0400)

Richard Stallman wrote:

   I don't follow the logic.  While the failure to implement some mouse
   features is clearly a drawback, why would it be better to implement
   none than to implement some?  I don't see it.

Did you try out Xterm Mouse mode for any prolonged period of time,
performing non-trivial tasks?

Anybody who uses Xterm Mouse mode _needs_ to know about the SHIFT
functionality.  That is, needs to have read either the
xterm-mouse-mode docstring or `(emacs)XTerm Mouse'.  Otherwise, the
most basic mouse functionality, killing and yanking, does not work
anymore (except _inside_ your Emacs session).  Even knowing about
SHIFT, it is a real nuisance.

The lack of the usual visual feedback (Emacs can not track the mouse,
even with Xterm Mouse mode enabled), can also be very confusing,
except to knowledgeable users.

Sincerely,

Luc.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-04-13 23:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-13  1:41 should xterm-mouse-mode be on by default? Dan Nicolaescu
2005-04-13  2:08 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-13  4:11 ` Miles Bader
2005-04-13 18:31 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-13 18:54   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2005-04-14 19:03     ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-14 19:08       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2005-04-14 23:31         ` David Kastrup
2005-04-15 15:11         ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-15 20:38           ` Nick Roberts
2005-04-15 21:26             ` Dan Nicolaescu
2005-04-15 21:38             ` Miles Bader
2005-04-16 17:49             ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-17  2:21               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-17 19:19                 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-13 23:23   ` Luc Teirlinck [this message]
2005-04-14 19:03     ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-14 22:58       ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-15  1:26       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-15  1:42         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-14  7:40 ` Kai Großjohann
2005-04-14  9:31   ` Stephan Stahl

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