From: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: should xterm-mouse-mode be on by default?
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:54:30 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200504131854.j3DIsWAH021282@scanner2.ics.uci.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1DLmdp-0003fw-Nl@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:31:09 -0400")
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> xterm-mouse-mode is missing some very useful functionality (at least
> IMO):
> - it is not possible to double-click to select a word/line/etc.
> - it is not possible to select text with the mouse in emacs and then
> use mouse-2 to paste in another xterm, or emacs. How would you copy
> text from an emacs running in an ssh session in an xterm?
>
> A lot of users use these features, so IMO it is not a good idea to
> turn on xterm-mouse-mode by default at this point.
>
> I don't follow the logic. While the failure to implement some mouse
> features is clearly a drawback, why would it be better to implement
> none than to implement some? I don't see it.
The argument is like this: a lot of users ONLY use the mouse in an xterm
to select text and then use mouse-2 to paste it in another
xterm/another application. Not being able to do this makes the mouse
not very useful, and the user would blame emacs for this.
Yes, it is still possible to use shift-mouse to access the normal
xterm copy/paste functionality, but there are few problems with that:
- as Miles said, most users would not know about this
- makes the xterm running emacs behave inconsistently with all
other xterms one might use at the same time
- using the mouse and the keyboard at the same time is not very
convenient
--dan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-13 18:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-04-13 1:41 should xterm-mouse-mode be on by default? Dan Nicolaescu
2005-04-13 2:08 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-13 4:11 ` Miles Bader
2005-04-13 18:31 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-13 18:54 ` Dan Nicolaescu [this message]
2005-04-14 19:03 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-14 19:08 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2005-04-14 23:31 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-15 15:11 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-15 20:38 ` Nick Roberts
2005-04-15 21:26 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2005-04-15 21:38 ` Miles Bader
2005-04-16 17:49 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-17 2:21 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-17 19:19 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-13 23:23 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-14 19:03 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-14 22:58 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-15 1:26 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-15 1:42 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-14 7:40 ` Kai Großjohann
2005-04-14 9:31 ` Stephan Stahl
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