From: PPAATT@aol.com
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE
Subject: across terminals
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:01:57 EDT [thread overview]
Message-ID: <170.ca25380.29f806c5@aol.com> (raw)
> Date: 4/20/02 11:28:15 AM MDT
> From: rms@gnu.org (Richard Stallman)
...
> Since such characters are not available
> on all terminals, ...
> People won't want to use these keys
> in major modes or minor modes
> meant for general use.
I remain mystified by this concise statement,
but I've thought up a new way to interpret it ...
A quick glance thru:
http://www.google.com/search?q=iso+646+vs+ascii
in particular:
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/chars.html#646
http://pdc.ro.nu/teletext.html
suggests that keyboards designed by ISO 646 folk
might have keys labelled with the "invariant set" of
printable US Ascii minus the thirteen chars
# $ @ [ \ ] ^ _ ` { | } ~
(i.e. x 23 24 40 5B 5C 5D 5E 5F 60 7B 7C 7D 7E).
So across Europe & relations maybe we face
"not available on all terminals" issues
in the default Emacs keymap with the "C-c letter"
concept we have been elucidating in our thread
titled "bindings reserved for users" but then also with:
set-mark-command is on C-@, C-SPC
key ESC is on C-[
abort-recursive-edit is on C-]
toggle-input-method is on C-\
undo C-_, C-/
ispell-word M-$
mark-word is on M-@
delete-horizontal-space is on M-\
delete-indentation is on M-^
tmm-menubar is on M-`
backward-paragraph is on C-up, M-{
shell-command-on-region is on M-|
forward-paragraph is on C-down, M-}
not-modified is on M-~
Fun to see how many of these we have
(and have not) already bound to alternate
key sequences, not to mention mouse actions etc.
I remember in particular that C-h t help-with-tutorial
bemoans the difficulty of finding locally how to undo,
hence we have C-x u advertised-undo (also known as
the undo that C-h w undo does Not advertise).
Pat LaVarre
next reply other threads:[~2002-04-24 13:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-04-24 13:01 PPAATT [this message]
2002-04-25 6:06 ` across terminals Richard Stallman
2002-04-25 11:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-25 11:31 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-04-26 1:32 ` Miles Bader
2002-04-25 15:04 ` Localization: keyboards and messages (Re: across terminals) Karl Eichwalder
2002-04-25 18:29 ` Pavel Janík
2002-04-26 10:25 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-04-26 17:38 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-26 18:06 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-04-28 15:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-25 20:45 ` across terminals Paul Eggert
2002-04-26 3:18 ` Richard Stallman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-04-26 13:51 PPAATT
2002-04-26 14:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-04-26 16:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-26 14:25 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-04-26 15:44 PPAATT
2002-04-26 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
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