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From: "Jostein Kjønigsen" <jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Subject: Re: GNU ELPA package for CC-mode
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 10:24:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1534753450.61885.1479668936.0BCA49E2@webmail.messagingengine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv4lfqxcy3.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org>

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On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, at 1:45 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>> I just tested the construction of a GNU ELPA package for CC-
>>> mode using>>> the :core thingy of elpa.git and everything looks good.
>> Who's going to be testing this?  I've a slight suspicion that
>> sometimes>> people add things to CC Mode that depend on things in master.
>> That would>> be subotimal for ELPA.
> 
> This has not proved to be a problem for other packages we handle this> way (e.g. soap-client, python.el, ...).
> One of the reasons is that it's so cheap&quick to release a new
> version> that such problems are trivial to solve if/when they show up.

cc-mode is not only used inside core Emacs, but also by third party
developers.
cc-mode has historically been shipped as part of Emacs, and has (as I've
understood things) tried to maintain a compatibility situation in line
with that: i.e. a minor Emacs release should not warrant breaking
changes in cc-mode.
When cc-mode has breaking changes, third-party major-modes deriving from
cc-mode trying to provide a reasonable level of compatibilty (thus
reducing friction for end-users), has previously had the option to check
against the running version of Emacs to decide which code-path to use.
As such, a change like this seems to impact third-party major-modes
deriving from cc-mode.
I'm not saying such a change universally and categorically will make
things worse (I can see some things improving too), but I think it
makes sense to consider the full impact of such changes before
committing to them.
--
Regards
Jostein Kjønigsen

jostein@kjonigsen.net 🍵 jostein@gmail.com
https://jostein.kjonigsen.net




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  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-20  8:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-19 13:24 GNU ELPA package for CC-mode Stefan Monnier
2018-08-19 20:49 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-08-19 23:45   ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-20  8:24     ` Jostein Kjønigsen [this message]
2018-08-20 14:06       ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-20 17:58         ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2018-08-21 13:30           ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-21 16:20     ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-08-23  5:25       ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-23 21:34         ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-08-23 22:17           ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-24  8:43             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-24 11:56               ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-24 22:21                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-25  8:43                   ` Tramp as ELPA package (was: GNU ELPA package for CC-mode) Michael Albinus
2018-08-25 18:04                     ` Tramp as ELPA package Stefan Monnier
2018-08-25 21:04                       ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-26  6:39                         ` Andreas Schwab
2018-08-26 10:48                           ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-26 11:09                         ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-26 15:21                           ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-26 18:04                             ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-26 18:27                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-26 18:34                                 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-26 19:03                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-27  7:12                                     ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-27 13:33                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-27 13:41                                         ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-27 13:44                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-27 15:22                                             ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-27 15:09                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-27 15:21                                         ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-26 15:30                           ` Tom Tromey
2018-08-26 16:26                             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-26 17:46                             ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-04 12:41                           ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-04 15:48                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-04 16:07                               ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-05 14:43                               ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-05 15:07                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-05 16:19                                   ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-16  7:53                                     ` Steinar Bang
2019-04-05 18:14                                 ` Stephen Leake
2019-04-05 18:20                                   ` Stephen Leake
2019-04-05 22:18                                     ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-07  0:17                                       ` Stephen Leake
2019-04-07  7:41                                         ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-06 12:42                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-08 12:37                                   ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-08 13:07                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-08 13:31                                       ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-08 16:43                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-20 13:05                                       ` Michael Albinus
2019-06-30 19:20                                         ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-05 18:55                               ` Achim Gratz
2019-04-06 22:25                                 ` GNU ELPA and package.el (was: Tramp as ELPA package) Stefan Monnier
2019-04-07  7:17                                   ` GNU ELPA and package.el Achim Gratz
2019-04-07 14:07                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-07 17:37                                       ` Achim Gratz
2019-04-07 20:31                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-08 17:55                                           ` Achim Gratz
2019-04-08 19:01                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-08 20:24                                               ` Achim Gratz
2019-04-09  1:39                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-25 19:15                   ` GNU ELPA package for CC-mode Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-08-25 20:17                     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-25 21:17                       ` Tom Tromey
2018-08-25 23:28                         ` Kyle Andrews
2018-08-24 15:48               ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-24 19:21                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-24 22:17               ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-25  7:02                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-25  8:51                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-08-25 10:15                   ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-25 18:07                   ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-25 18:27                     ` Eli Zaretskii

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