From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Tramp as ELPA package
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 13:09:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tvnh9yg6.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvsh32qhtd.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 25 Aug 2018 17:04:54 -0400")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> If the single place were in tramp.el instead of configure.ac you
>> wouldn't need tramp.el to be generated either.
>
> See patch below for an example.
Thanks. I've applied this to the repositories in your name. However,
this is the first step only. Further problems for making Tramp an ELPA
package:
* Revised version structure. Tramp is released roughly every 6 months
(releases 2.4.0, 2.4.1, ...). In the time between, it has an
intermediate release string like 2.4.1-pre. At least for the *-pre
version, Tramp changes frequently, w/o a new version. This does not
work well for ELPA packages.
Maybe we need an intermediate release string as the MELPA packages
have: add a time stamp in the Version: header of tramp.el *only* in
the Emacs repository, whenever a new version of Tramp shall appear as
package, like 2.4.1.pre.20180826. This shouldn't be done
automatically, by intention only. An automatic release of Tramp as
ELPA package might be too frequent, I fear.
* Several Tramp versions. I maintain several Tramp versions in parallel,
currently 2.3.4 and 2.4.1. I'm not confident that 2.4.1 shall be the
ELPA package today, because new features will be added here, and it is
kind of unstable, therefore. I believe, 2.3.4 would be better suited
for all users *not* running Emacs 27.0.50. Users running Emacs 27.0.50
do not need Tramp as ELPA package, because it is always synced with
the Emacs repository. How do we manage this?
* Providing Tramp documentation. IIUC, ELPA packages could contain
*.texi and *.info files, but they are not propagated to the
users. This shall be enhanced, because new features of Tramp are
reflected there.
* Likely more problems ...
> Stefan
Best regards, Michael.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-26 11:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-19 13:24 GNU ELPA package for CC-mode Stefan Monnier
2018-08-19 20:49 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-08-19 23:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-20 8:24 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2018-08-20 14:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-20 17:58 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2018-08-21 13:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-21 16:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-08-23 5:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-23 21:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-08-23 22:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-24 8:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-24 11:56 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-24 22:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-25 8:43 ` Tramp as ELPA package (was: GNU ELPA package for CC-mode) Michael Albinus
2018-08-25 18:04 ` Tramp as ELPA package Stefan Monnier
2018-08-25 21:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-26 6:39 ` Andreas Schwab
2018-08-26 10:48 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-26 11:09 ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2018-08-26 15:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-26 18:04 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-26 18:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-26 18:34 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-26 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-27 7:12 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-27 13:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-27 13:41 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-27 13:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-27 15:22 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-27 15:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-27 15:21 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-26 15:30 ` Tom Tromey
2018-08-26 16:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-26 17:46 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-04 12:41 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-04 15:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-04 16:07 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-05 14:43 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-05 15:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-05 16:19 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-16 7:53 ` Steinar Bang
2019-04-05 18:14 ` Stephen Leake
2019-04-05 18:20 ` Stephen Leake
2019-04-05 22:18 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-07 0:17 ` Stephen Leake
2019-04-07 7:41 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-06 12:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-08 12:37 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-08 13:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-08 13:31 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-08 16:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-20 13:05 ` Michael Albinus
2019-06-30 19:20 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-05 18:55 ` Achim Gratz
2019-04-06 22:25 ` GNU ELPA and package.el (was: Tramp as ELPA package) Stefan Monnier
2019-04-07 7:17 ` GNU ELPA and package.el Achim Gratz
2019-04-07 14:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-07 17:37 ` Achim Gratz
2019-04-07 20:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-08 17:55 ` Achim Gratz
2019-04-08 19:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-08 20:24 ` Achim Gratz
2019-04-09 1:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-25 19:15 ` GNU ELPA package for CC-mode Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-08-25 20:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-25 21:17 ` Tom Tromey
2018-08-25 23:28 ` Kyle Andrews
2018-08-24 15:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-24 19:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-24 22:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-25 7:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-25 8:51 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-08-25 10:15 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-25 18:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-25 18:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
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