* bug#14818: Keybindings for page motion not easy to remember
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@ 2013-07-08 12:40 ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-08 12:55 ` Andreas Schwab
2013-11-15 4:53 ` Jambunathan K
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From: Jambunathan K @ 2013-07-08 12:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 14818
James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> writes:
> (Even after more than a quarter-century of Emacs C-x [ and C-x ] are not
> integrated in to my muscle memory.)
I have the same issue. I have been using Emacs for a decade or so.
I find page motion to be really useful.
If I consider C-functions as a paragraph, then remembering
M-{ backward-paragraph
M-} forward-paragraph
for paragraph motions is no big deal.
May I suggest,
M-[ backward-page
M-] forward-page
instead of the current
C-x [ backward-page
C-x ] forward-page
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2013-07-08 12:40 ` bug#14818: Keybindings for page motion not easy to remember Jambunathan K
@ 2013-07-08 12:55 ` Andreas Schwab
2013-07-08 13:02 ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-09 21:25 ` James Cloos
2013-11-15 4:53 ` Jambunathan K
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From: Andreas Schwab @ 2013-07-08 12:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jambunathan K; +Cc: 14818
Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes:
> M-[ backward-page
M-[ is already taken.
Andreas.
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* bug#14818: Keybindings for page motion not easy to remember
2013-07-08 12:55 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2013-07-08 13:02 ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-08 13:05 ` Andreas Schwab
2013-07-09 21:25 ` James Cloos
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jambunathan K @ 2013-07-08 13:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Schwab; +Cc: 14818
Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de> writes:
> Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> M-[ backward-page
>
> M-[ is already taken.
by who?
> Andreas.
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* bug#14818: Keybindings for page motion not easy to remember
2013-07-08 13:02 ` Jambunathan K
@ 2013-07-08 13:05 ` Andreas Schwab
2013-07-08 13:38 ` Jambunathan K
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From: Andreas Schwab @ 2013-07-08 13:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jambunathan K; +Cc: 14818
Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes:
> Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de> writes:
>
>> Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> M-[ backward-page
>>
>> M-[ is already taken.
>
> by who?
Function keys.
Andreas.
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Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de
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"And now for something completely different."
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* bug#14818: Keybindings for page motion not easy to remember
2013-07-08 13:05 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2013-07-08 13:38 ` Jambunathan K
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From: Jambunathan K @ 2013-07-08 13:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Schwab; +Cc: 14818
Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de> writes:
> Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de> writes:
>>
>>> Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> M-[ backward-page
>>>
>>> M-[ is already taken.
>>
>> by who?
>
> Function keys.
In Gtk Emacs,
M-[ C-h
reports nothing.
With emacs -nw,
,----
| ^L
| Global Bindings Starting With M-[:
| key binding
| --- -------
|
| ^L
| Input decoding map translations Starting With M-[:
| key binding
| --- -------
|
| M-[ 1 Prefix Command
`----
So this M, ESC business is something that I would never understand. I
am at my wits end for other "workable" solutions. Having an exception
for `M- [' just for GUI Emacs would be unacceptable, I suppose.
>
> Andreas.
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* bug#14818: Keybindings for page motion not easy to remember
2013-07-08 12:55 ` Andreas Schwab
2013-07-08 13:02 ` Jambunathan K
@ 2013-07-09 21:25 ` James Cloos
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From: James Cloos @ 2013-07-09 21:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jambunathan K; +Cc: Andreas Schwab, 14818
Since this stems from my comment on the list....
I didn't mean to imply that I do not remember where backward-page and
forward-page *are*, just that my fingers automatically start hitting
C-v to scroll down in buffers like *Help* before I have a chance to
consider paging down.
A different binding wouldn't fix that.
And as Andreas notes, ESC [ is the start of many vt100/xterm-style
commands, including the octets sent by function keys.
-JimC
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* bug#14818: Keybindings for page motion not easy to remember
2013-07-08 12:40 ` bug#14818: Keybindings for page motion not easy to remember Jambunathan K
2013-07-08 12:55 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2013-11-15 4:53 ` Jambunathan K
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From: Jambunathan K @ 2013-11-15 4:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 14818-done
OP here. Closed.
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