* bug#19082: 24.4.50; seconds-to-time: Autoloading failed to define function time-add
@ 2014-11-17 16:32 James Cloos
2014-11-19 20:20 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: James Cloos @ 2014-11-17 16:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 19082
I get the $subject error continuously since compiling git master.
My last compile was before the switch.
It blocks my .emacs and makes the session nearly unsuable.
I had been on bzr trunk, last built on Nov 5.
The lisp/calendar/time-date.el tries to define time-add in an
eval-when-compile, in case it already exists. That seems to fail.
In GNU Emacs 24.4.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
of 2014-09-21 on carbon.jhcloos.org
Repository revision: rgm@gnu.org-20140921102238-y79wwgquz64iq7kf
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11699901
System Description: Gentoo Base System release 2.2
Configured using:
`configure --prefix=/usr --build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
--host=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man
--infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc
--localstatedir=/var/lib --disable-dependency-tracking
--disable-silent-rules --libdir=/usr/lib64
--program-suffix=-emacs-24-vcs --infodir=/usr/share/info/emacs-24-vcs
--localstatedir=/var
--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
--with-gameuser=games --without-compress-install
--with-file-notification=inotify --enable-acl --with-dbus --with-gnutls
--with-gpm --without-hesiod --with-kerberos --with-kerberos5
--with-xml2 --without-selinux --without-wide-int --with-zlib
--with-sound=alsa --with-x --without-ns --without-gconf
--without-gsettings --with-toolkit-scroll-bars --with-gif --with-jpeg
--with-png --with-rsvg --with-tiff --with-xpm --with-imagemagick
--with-xft --with-libotf --with-m17n-flt --with-x-toolkit=lucid
--with-xaw3d GENTOO_PACKAGE=app-editors/emacs-vcs-24.4.9999
EBZR_BRANCH=trunk EBZR_REVNO=117908 'CFLAGS=-pipe -O2 -g3
-march=native' CPPFLAGS= 'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed''
Configured features:
XAW3D XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS NOTIFY ACL
GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB
Important settings:
value of $LC_COLLATE: C
value of $LC_CTYPE: en_US.UTF-8
value of $LC_TIME: C
value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
Major mode: Messages
Minor modes in effect:
blink-cursor-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
buffer-read-only: t
line-number-mode: t
Recent input:
C-x b <return> <mouse-movement> <mouse-movement> <drag-mouse-1>
<mouse-movement> <mouse-movement> <mouse-movement>
<drag-mouse-1> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> M-x r e p o
r t - b <tab> <return>
Recent messages:
seconds-to-time: Autoloading failed to define function time-add [3 times]
Mark set [2 times]
seconds-to-time: Autoloading failed to define function time-add [2 times]
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* bug#19082: 24.4.50; seconds-to-time: Autoloading failed to define function time-add
2014-11-17 16:32 bug#19082: 24.4.50; seconds-to-time: Autoloading failed to define function time-add James Cloos
@ 2014-11-19 20:20 ` Glenn Morris
2014-11-19 22:47 ` James Cloos
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2014-11-19 20:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: James Cloos; +Cc: 19082
James Cloos wrote:
> I get the $subject error continuously since compiling git master.
Please try and remember to change the version string in the subject if
you need to report something from a different Emacs than the one the
report is about, else it gets rather confusing.
(Since all the boilerplate report-emacs-bug information is irrelevant and
incorrect in this report, I think it would have been better to just send
a mail to bug-gnu-emacs in this case.)
Anyway, I cannot reproduce your issue in current master.
I suggest `make bootstrap' might help you out.
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* bug#19082: 24.4.50; seconds-to-time: Autoloading failed to define function time-add
2014-11-19 20:20 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2014-11-19 22:47 ` James Cloos
2014-11-19 23:00 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: James Cloos @ 2014-11-19 22:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 19082
>>>>> "GM" == Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:
GM> James Cloos wrote:
>> I get the $subject error continuously since compiling git master.
GM> Please try and remember to change the version string in the subject if
GM> you need to report something from a different Emacs than the one the
GM> report is about, else it gets rather confusing.
I reported it from the affected version, started with -Q.
GM> Anyway, I cannot reproduce your issue in current master.
As it turned out, running with -nsl fixed it.
It looke like gnus added an el file with the same name as the one in
emacs, which was loaded instead of emacs' file.
So the real bug is that -nsl is not the default.
-JimC
--
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* bug#19082: 24.4.50; seconds-to-time: Autoloading failed to define function time-add
2014-11-19 22:47 ` James Cloos
@ 2014-11-19 23:00 ` Glenn Morris
2014-11-19 23:19 ` James Cloos
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2014-11-19 23:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: James Cloos; +Cc: 19082
James Cloos wrote:
> I reported it from the affected version, started with -Q.
You said:
I get the $subject error continuously since compiling git master.
But your subject says "24.4.50":
i) git master has version 25.0.50, not 24.4.50
ii) even the emacs-24 branch has version 24.4.51, and has done so since
before switching to git
iii) your mail had a bzr repository revision
> As it turned out, running with -nsl fixed it.
>
> It looke like gnus added an el file with the same name as the one in
> emacs, which was loaded instead of emacs' file.
IIUC, a local shadow of something broke something?
I don't think this is an Emacs problem.
> So the real bug is that -nsl is not the default.
But obviously we can't make that the default setting?
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* bug#19082: 24.4.50; seconds-to-time: Autoloading failed to define function time-add
2014-11-19 23:00 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2014-11-19 23:19 ` James Cloos
2014-11-20 3:31 ` Glenn Morris
2014-11-20 3:44 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: James Cloos @ 2014-11-19 23:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 19082
>>>>> "GM" == Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:
GM> You said:
GM> I get the $subject error continuously since compiling git master.
GM> But your subject says "24.4.50":
Hmmm. I was getting the error after trying several re-compiles,
including earlier versions in Gentoo portage. I guess I failed to
recall exactly which I was at when I managed to send the bug report.
Whichever version I used, it showed the same symtom.
>> As it turned out, running with -nsl fixed it.
>>
>> It looke like gnus added an el file with the same name as the one in
>> emacs, which was loaded instead of emacs' file.
GM> IIUC, a local shadow of something broke something?
GM> I don't think this is an Emacs problem.
>> So the real bug is that -nsl is not the default.
GM> But obviously we can't make that the default setting?
Why not?
It used to be necessary manually, in a site el or in .emacs, to add
subdirectories to the load path. That makes it easy to install packages
which get infrequent use, and enable them as neeeded.
Now, the default breaks things.
I has to uninstall a language package some time back because it broke
gud when installed. The ability to load it only when I want, w/o
breaking other emacs sessions is most valuable.
-JimC
--
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* bug#19082: 24.4.50; seconds-to-time: Autoloading failed to define function time-add
2014-11-19 23:19 ` James Cloos
@ 2014-11-20 3:31 ` Glenn Morris
2014-11-20 16:18 ` James Cloos
2014-11-20 3:44 ` Glenn Morris
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2014-11-20 3:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: James Cloos; +Cc: 19082
James Cloos wrote:
>>> So the real bug is that -nsl is not the default.
>
> GM> But obviously we can't make that the default setting?
>
> Why not?
"Something I loaded in my .emacs broke something.
Therefore, you should not load .emacs by default."
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* bug#19082: 24.4.50; seconds-to-time: Autoloading failed to define function time-add
2014-11-19 23:19 ` James Cloos
2014-11-20 3:31 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2014-11-20 3:44 ` Glenn Morris
2014-11-20 16:22 ` James Cloos
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2014-11-20 3:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: James Cloos; +Cc: 19082
James Cloos wrote:
> It used to be necessary manually, in a site el or in .emacs, to add
> subdirectories to the load path. That makes it easy to install packages
> which get infrequent use, and enable them as neeeded.
I'm pretty sure the defaults in this area have not changed for a _long_
time, and therefore can't be changed now without massive
incompatibility.
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* bug#19082: 24.4.50; seconds-to-time: Autoloading failed to define function time-add
2014-11-20 3:31 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2014-11-20 16:18 ` James Cloos
2015-02-28 20:30 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: James Cloos @ 2014-11-20 16:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 19082
>>>>> "GM" == Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:
GM> "Something I loaded in my .emacs broke something.
GM> Therefore, you should not load .emacs by default."
That is the opposite of what I said.
-JimC
--
James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6
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* bug#19082: 24.4.50; seconds-to-time: Autoloading failed to define function time-add
2014-11-20 3:44 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2014-11-20 16:22 ` James Cloos
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: James Cloos @ 2014-11-20 16:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 19082
>>>>> "GM" == Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:
GM> I'm pretty sure the defaults in this area have not changed for a _long_
GM> time
Not that long. During the bzr era, if I'm not mistaken.
-JimC
--
James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6
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* bug#19082: 24.4.50; seconds-to-time: Autoloading failed to define function time-add
2014-11-20 16:18 ` James Cloos
@ 2015-02-28 20:30 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2015-02-28 20:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 19082-done
I'm closing this report because I am sure there is nothing that can be
done about it.
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