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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, Zachary Kanfer <zkanfer@gmail.com>,
	juri@linkov.net, ruijie@netyu.xyz, 62892@debbugs.gnu.org,
	drew.adams@oracle.com
Subject: bug#62892: proposal to extend mark-sexp to go forward and backward on command
Date: Wed, 31 May 2023 23:54:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvy1l3g7td.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83mt1kg15o.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 31 May 2023 15:01:39 +0300")

>> #2 and #3 I believe can be considered together. There are a few things
>> that could do this, but I think
>> what you're saying is that this function should *only* move mark.That is,
>> point should stay the same no
>> matter what is called here. Additionally, it should activate mark. Is that what you meant?
>
> No, it should only move point, not the mark.  The mark should stay
> where point was before invoking the command.

Hmm?  Really?
That would make it equivalent to `forward-sexp`, no?

> This is correct, but only for commands that do something with the text
> in the region: limit search/replace to it, or spell-check the text in
> it, etc.  mark-sexp doesn't do anything like that, it actually
> _modifies_ the region.  So the fact that it changes its effect
> depending on whether the region is active is IMO pretty confusing and
> unexpected.

Agreed, tho for `mark-sexp` when `transient-mark-mode` is enabled, it
makes sense to treat "region not active" differently from "region
active", since `mark-sexp` mostly moves the mark but when the region is
not active, it means the mark is "an old obsolete mark" that the user
may not remember any more.


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-01  3:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-17  2:25 bug#62892: proposal to extend mark-sexp to go forward and backward on command Zachary Kanfer
2023-04-17  3:06 ` Ruijie Yu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-20  5:25   ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-04-20  7:16     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-21  5:04       ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-04-21  6:07         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-21  7:24           ` Eshel Yaron via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-21  9:51           ` Visuwesh
2023-04-21 13:10   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-23  5:33     ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-04-25 22:26       ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-26  4:41         ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-04-26  6:28           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-27  2:37             ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-04-27 12:25               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-27 18:12                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-04-28  5:28                   ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-05-06  8:49                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-28 17:04       ` Juri Linkov
2023-04-28 19:28         ` Drew Adams
2023-05-04  4:48           ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-05-08 12:28             ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-05-18  3:17               ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-05-18  6:52                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-21  5:46                   ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-05-21  5:58                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-21 14:31                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-21 14:39                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-21 14:54                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-21 14:56                         ` Eshel Yaron via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-21 15:11                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-21 15:41                             ` Eshel Yaron via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-22 22:02                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-05-23 14:11                   ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-05-25 22:32                     ` Richard Stallman
2023-05-26  6:06                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-31  3:23                         ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-05-31 12:01                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01  3:54                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2023-06-01  6:32                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-03  6:10         ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-05-03 17:29           ` Juri Linkov
2023-04-17  7:11 ` Juri Linkov

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