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From: Zachary Kanfer <zkanfer@gmail.com>
To: "Daniel Martín" <mardani29@yahoo.es>
Cc: Ruijie Yu <ruijie@netyu.xyz>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	62892@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#62892: proposal to extend mark-sexp to go forward and backward on command
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 00:41:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFXT+RO8MLOq=PoCEWCg2Wvvhay=U9bgq41Ev4ew34PO9-0Zng@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1354nr42v.fsf@yahoo.es>

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The documentation for mark-sexp says:

> Set mark ARG sexps from point.
> The place mark goes is the same place C-M-<right> would
> move to with the same argument.

This is correct but misleading. Worse still is the next part:

> Interactively, if this command is repeated
> or (in Transient Mark mode) if the mark is active,
> it marks the next ARG sexps after the ones already marked.

This says it marks sexps *after* the ones already marked. This is
incorrect; if point is *after* mark, and mark is active, this function
marks sexps *before* the ones already marked.

> In my opinion, the description of that feature should not be part of the
> mark-sexp command documentation, because the feature is actually
> provided by C-x C-x (exchange-point-and-mark).

One way for this situation to occur is by using C-x C-x, yes, but it's not
the only way. You can set point, move forward sexps, and then calling
mark-sexp will mark sexps backwards.

There is specific code in mark-sexp to check which direction to move; it
should be documented as such.

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 6:26 PM Daniel Martín <mardani29@yahoo.es> wrote:

> Zachary Kanfer <zkanfer@gmail.com> writes:
>
> >
> > Also, whatever the outcome of this patch, I think it would be advisable
> to
> > explain somewhere how mark-sexp extends region by the end of region
> > opposite point; this is not in the docstring or any other documentation
> > I've seen.
> >
>
> In my opinion, the description of that feature should not be part of the
> mark-sexp command documentation, because the feature is actually
> provided by C-x C-x (exchange-point-and-mark).  The Emacs manual in
> section 12.1 Setting the Mark describes this use case well, I think:
>
> ‘C-x C-x’ is useful when you are
> satisfied with the position of point but want to move the other end of
> the region (where the mark is).
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-26  4:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-17  2:25 bug#62892: proposal to extend mark-sexp to go forward and backward on command Zachary Kanfer
2023-04-17  3:06 ` Ruijie Yu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-20  5:25   ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-04-20  7:16     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-21  5:04       ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-04-21  6:07         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-21  7:24           ` Eshel Yaron via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-21  9:51           ` Visuwesh
2023-04-21 13:10   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-23  5:33     ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-04-25 22:26       ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-26  4:41         ` Zachary Kanfer [this message]
2023-04-26  6:28           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-27  2:37             ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-04-27 12:25               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-27 18:12                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-04-28  5:28                   ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-05-06  8:49                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-28 17:04       ` Juri Linkov
2023-04-28 19:28         ` Drew Adams
2023-05-04  4:48           ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-05-08 12:28             ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-05-18  3:17               ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-05-18  6:52                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-21  5:46                   ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-05-21  5:58                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-21 14:31                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-21 14:39                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-21 14:54                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-21 14:56                         ` Eshel Yaron via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-21 15:11                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-21 15:41                             ` Eshel Yaron via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-22 22:02                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-05-23 14:11                   ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-05-25 22:32                     ` Richard Stallman
2023-05-26  6:06                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-31  3:23                         ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-05-31 12:01                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01  3:54                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-06-01  6:32                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-03  6:10         ` Zachary Kanfer
2023-05-03 17:29           ` Juri Linkov
2023-04-17  7:11 ` Juri Linkov

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