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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Christian Ohler <ohler@gnu.org>
Cc: 11218@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#11218: with-demoted-errors use of condition-case-unless-debug; ert
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:34:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvsjfxstne.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F91CEEF.20305@gnu.org> (Christian Ohler's message of "Fri, 20 Apr 2012 14:02:39 -0700")

>> I don't see the point of showing that info when running the tests.
>> If the user wants that info, he should be able to easily say "run this
>> test with debug-on-error" so he doesn't only get a backtrace but also
>> gets put in the debugger where he can inspect the state.

> ERT's keyboard shortcut for that is "d".  But it's not a good solution if:

> * the test is nondeterministic (maybe due to subprocess interaction),
> * the test takes a long time to run,
> * you have multiple failing tests and want to quickly compare if they are
> crashing in the same place,
> * ERT is running in batch mode (e.g. make check).

> It's better to collect as much data as reasonably possible when the error
> first occurs.

None of these arguments are really specific to ERT.  It just seems like
you like to run with debug-on-error, which is fine (I do too).
But don't impose it on all ERT users.

>> No: you'll be put in the debugger for the error "a" but if you hit `c'
>> it will continue and re-enter the debugger for error "b".
> My Emacs is a few months old, but that doesn't work for me.  Has it
> changed recently?
[...]
> If `debug-on-error' is t, `with-demoted-errors' becomes essentially
> equivalent to `progn', and (error "b") can ever be reached in

You're right, sorry: brain malfunction.
But that just means you first have to fix the bug that signals "a" before
getting to the bug that signals "b".


        Stefan





  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-21  2:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-11  3:37 bug#11218: with-demoted-errors use of condition-case-unless-debug; ert Glenn Morris
2012-04-11 12:03 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-04-11 16:16   ` Glenn Morris
2012-04-11 16:28     ` Glenn Morris
2012-04-11 17:57       ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-11 13:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-13  0:15   ` Glenn Morris
2012-04-13 13:44     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-17 21:30       ` Christian Ohler
2012-04-19  7:46         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-20  3:09           ` Christian Ohler
2012-04-20 12:13             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-20 21:02               ` Christian Ohler
2012-04-21  2:34                 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2012-04-23 13:26                   ` Lennart Borgman
2012-04-24  2:04                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-05-06 18:45                   ` Christian Ohler
2012-05-07  1:12                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-05-21  3:03                       ` Christian Ohler
2018-08-15  1:10         ` Noam Postavsky
2020-11-24 17:34           ` Philipp Stephani

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