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From: Christian Ohler <ohler@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: 11218@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#11218: with-demoted-errors use of condition-case-unless-debug; ert
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 14:02:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F91CEEF.20305@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvzka61udx.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On 4/20/12 5:13 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>> So the next question is: why does ERT record a backtrace and that extra
>>> information provided by ert-info?
>> To be able to show them to the user, together with the test failure.  If you
>> have one or more failing tests, it's much more useful to see the error
>> messages and backtraces rather than just the error messages.
>
> I don't see the point of showing that info when running the tests.
> If the user wants that info, he should be able to easily say "run this
> test with debug-on-error" so he doesn't only get a backtrace but also
> gets put in the debugger where he can inspect the state.

ERT's keyboard shortcut for that is "d".  But it's not a good solution if:

* the test is nondeterministic (maybe due to subprocess interaction),
* the test takes a long time to run,
* you have multiple failing tests and want to quickly compare if they 
are crashing in the same place,
* ERT is running in batch mode (e.g. make check).

It's better to collect as much data as reasonably possible when the 
error first occurs.


>>    (ert-deftest foo ()
>>      (with-demoted-errors (error "a"))
>>      (error "b"))
>
>> would normally fail with "b", but if we enable debugging to track down why,
>> it will fail with "a" instead (with no way to continue execution to get to
>> the error we are interested in).
>
> No: you'll be put in the debugger for the error "a" but if you hit `c'
> it will continue and re-enter the debugger for error "b".

My Emacs is a few months old, but that doesn't work for me.  Has it 
changed recently?

I'm using

   (defun foo ()
     (with-demoted-errors (error "a"))
     (error "b"))

and typing

   C-u <escape> C-x <escape> : ( f o o ) <return> c c

and all I find in *Messages* is

   error: "a"
   Continue...
   edebug-signal: a

No mention of "b".

If `debug-on-error' is t, `with-demoted-errors' becomes essentially 
equivalent to `progn', and (error "b") can ever be reached in

   (defun foo ()
     (progn (error "a"))
     (error "b"))

since `error' never returns (and I think that's an important guarantee 
that the debugger shouldn't violate, at least not without confirmation).

Christian.





  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-20 21:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-11  3:37 bug#11218: with-demoted-errors use of condition-case-unless-debug; ert Glenn Morris
2012-04-11 12:03 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-04-11 16:16   ` Glenn Morris
2012-04-11 16:28     ` Glenn Morris
2012-04-11 17:57       ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-11 13:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-13  0:15   ` Glenn Morris
2012-04-13 13:44     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-17 21:30       ` Christian Ohler
2012-04-19  7:46         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-20  3:09           ` Christian Ohler
2012-04-20 12:13             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-20 21:02               ` Christian Ohler [this message]
2012-04-21  2:34                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-23 13:26                   ` Lennart Borgman
2012-04-24  2:04                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-05-06 18:45                   ` Christian Ohler
2012-05-07  1:12                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-05-21  3:03                       ` Christian Ohler
2018-08-15  1:10         ` Noam Postavsky
2020-11-24 17:34           ` Philipp Stephani

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