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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: ola.x.nilsson@axis.com, 45857@debbugs.gnu.org, 30994@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#30994: bug#45857: 28.0.50; Not possible to set package-user-dir in early-init.el
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2021 11:08:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvk0seqjcz.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <835z3ybpsj.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 15 Jan 2021 09:52:12 +0200")

> But that's still the same kludge: we will rely on the fact that there
> are currently no (i.e. zero, a.k.a. "a small number") of such
> variables.

I'm hoping that there's a good reason why the one exception we have
suffers from a bug, and for that reason we should resist the temptation
to add more such cases.

>> > Basically, some variables can only be usefully initialized after some
>> > part(s) of startup have happened already.  One way of dealing with
>> > this is to have the variables record this information (e.g., in a
>> > plist of their symbol) that would allow us evaluate each variable only
>> > once, at the earliest opportunity where the prerequisites are
>> > fulfilled.
[...]
> I say we should get ready for the future now.  Introducing the
> infrastructure I mentioned is not a big deal.

Hmm... maybe I misunderstood what you meant by that infrastructure, then.
Could you outline more concretely what it would look like?

Also, would it currently result in a behavior that's different from:

- initialize all delayed vars before early-init
- re-initialize blink-cursor-mode after early-init

?


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-15 16:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-14 11:51 bug#45857: 28.0.50; Not possible to set package-user-dir in early-init.el Ola x Nilsson
2021-01-14 15:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-14 15:41   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-14 18:20     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-14 18:40       ` bug#30994: " Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-14 19:32         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-14 20:41           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-14 21:02             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-15  7:52               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-15 16:08                 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2021-01-15 18:25                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-15 22:19                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-16  4:52                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-19 17:11                         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-22 16:08                           ` bug#30994: " Phillip Lord
2021-01-22 16:44                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-22 17:02                               ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-16  7:08                       ` Eli Zaretskii

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