From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: ola.x.nilsson@axis.com, 45857@debbugs.gnu.org, 30994@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#30994: bug#45857: 28.0.50; Not possible to set package-user-dir in early-init.el
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 14:32:13 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvczy7s4uy.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83o8hrbbv6.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 14 Jan 2021 20:40:45 +0200")
> Is there any place where all these complications are described, so
> that people (and we ourselves) could have a complete, comprehensive
> overview of this stuff and the various problems it needs to solve? If
> not, how about taking this opportunity to describe that? Because
> otherwise these incidents will keep happening.
Here's the story:
We have a few variables which are predefined in the dumped Emacs but
whose default value depends on information only available when Emacs is
executed, such as the user's $HOME.
We handle those using `custom-initialize-delayed`, so when the
variable's `defcustom` is procesed the variable isn't initialized yet,
and instead initialization happens in `startup.el` by calling
`custom-reevaluate-setting` on each one of those delayed variables.
In Emacs-26, we did that just before loading the `.emacs` file and
everybody was happy. But the `early-init.el` file added to Emacs-27
introduced a difficulty there:
- Those vars's values might be needed in `early-init.el` so we should
call `custom-reevaluate-setting` before we load `early-init.el`.
- The value of `blink-cursor-mode` depends on whether window-system is
nil or not, which is only known after loading `early-init.el`, so we
should call `custom-reevaluate-setting` after we load `early-init.el`.
Currently we solve this by calling `custom-reevaluate-setting` twice for
every one of those variables. But it means that we silently override
any change made to those variables from `early-init.el`.
As noted, the only var whose default value needs to be (re)computed
after loading `early-init.el` is `blink-cursor-mode`. In theory there
could be more, but I think we should aim to reduce rather than increase
those cases. E.g. the current way `blink-cursor-mode` is defined means
that if I start `emacs -Q -nw` and later create a GUI frame, that frame
won't have a blinking cursor. I think this is a bug (tho I can see
that some people may consider it a feature if they (like me) dislike
blinking cursors ;-0)
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-01-14 19:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-01-14 11:51 bug#45857: 28.0.50; Not possible to set package-user-dir in early-init.el Ola x Nilsson
2021-01-14 15:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-14 15:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-14 18:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-14 18:40 ` bug#30994: " Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-14 19:32 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2021-01-14 20:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-14 21:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-15 7:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-15 16:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-15 18:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-15 22:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-16 4:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-19 17:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-22 16:08 ` bug#30994: " Phillip Lord
2021-01-22 16:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-22 17:02 ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-16 7:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
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