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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	56305@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#56305: 29.0.50; 'yes-or-no-p' deselects minibuffer frame
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2022 10:58:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv8roqiimq.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11e7e566-f626-fcf4-adfc-d03efa0d861c@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Mon, 18 Jul 2022 09:37:35 +0200")

>> In case you intend to fix this apparent blunder of mine: the point of
>> that commit was to set the selected window and frame so that ELisp code
>> run from the `mode-line-format` would see meaningful and consistent
>> values of selected-frame/window (and companions like the
>> frame-selected-window of the selected-frame, ...).
> How are display_mode_line or display_mode_lines affected by that commit?

I'm sorry, I don't understand the question.

> Worse even: People who want to know, for example, whether the mode line
> belongs to the selected window have to use 'old-selected-window' for
> getting that.

Not sure "worse" than what.

Clearly when computing the mode-line, there are 2 windows of interest:
the one to which this mode-line belongs and the one that's currently
considered (from the outside) as "the selected window".  Only one of the
two can be "the selected window" while computing the mode-line, and in
my experience most code wants/needs this to be the mode-line's window
rather than "the one that's currently considered (from the outside) as
the selected window".

> And by no means I'd ask for changing this.  But a better explanation in
> the doc-strings and the manual should be in order.  End of the aside.

I didn't know that `old-selected-window` could be used for that (when
I installed the patch, there was simply no such option and my
recommendation when people needed such a thing was to use
a `pre-redisplay-hook` to set some global var to remember the window
that was selected when entering redisplay).

>> If calling `Fselect_window` with a non-nil `norecord` argument messes
>> things up somehow then maybe we should fix `Fselect_window` accordingly,
>> or otherwise provide a "more bare bones" function that DTRT.
>>
>> It seems clear to me, for example, that when called with a non-nil
>> `norecord` (like in the mode-line code), `Fselect_window` should never
>> cause any change to the focus redirection (or the focus itself).
>
> NORECORD is not about focus.

Then we need something like it but to say "I just want to change
selected-window temporarily, so don't mess with focus or any such thing".

Or maybe, an alternative would be to wait until the next redisplay to
reflect the effect of select-frame/window on focus.

>> I can't see the connection between these bugs at the above commit, sorry.
> They are a direct result of x/gui_consider_frame_title calling
> Fselect_window calling resize_mini_window and were fixed by binding
> 'inhibit-redisplay' appropriately in x/gui_consider_frame_title.

Hmm... following the idea above, maybe select-frame/window should never
call resize_mini_window, and instead that should only take place at the
next redisplay.


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-18 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-29 17:54 bug#56305: 29.0.50; 'yes-or-no-p' deselects minibuffer frame martin rudalics
2022-06-29 19:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-30 10:35   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-30 20:32   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-02 11:38   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-03  8:16     ` martin rudalics
2022-07-03 16:09       ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-03 16:17         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-04 19:10           ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-04 19:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-04 19:43               ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-05  2:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-05 15:59                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-05 16:24                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-05 17:09                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-06 17:04                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-06 17:29                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-06 18:16                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-06 18:34                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-06 18:58                             ` Andreas Schwab
2022-07-06 19:05                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-06 19:09                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2022-07-06 19:22                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-07 17:25                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-07 18:57                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-08 21:03                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-09  2:15                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-07  7:55                             ` martin rudalics
2022-07-07  9:12                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-08  7:01                                 ` martin rudalics
2022-07-08 10:55                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-08 11:55                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-08 18:31                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-09  8:36                                       ` martin rudalics
2022-07-08 21:45                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2022-07-09  8:35                                     ` martin rudalics
2022-07-09 10:57                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-10  8:07                                         ` martin rudalics
2022-07-10 11:34                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-10 11:47                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-10 12:41                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-10 13:01                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-10 16:13                                             ` Drew Adams
2022-07-10 16:55                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-11  7:45                                             ` martin rudalics
2022-07-11 11:12                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-12  7:33                                                 ` martin rudalics
2022-07-12 16:02                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-11 16:22                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-11 16:43                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-11 17:15                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-11 17:33                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-11 17:34                                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-11 20:09                                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-11 17:06                                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-11 20:01                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-12  7:35                                                 ` martin rudalics
2022-07-12 14:56                                                   ` Drew Adams
2022-07-16  7:06                                                     ` martin rudalics
2022-07-16 20:34                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-18  7:36                                                     ` martin rudalics
2022-07-18 14:44                                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-19  8:09                                                         ` martin rudalics
2022-07-19 16:04                                                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-16 23:39                                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-17 11:29                                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-17 14:03                                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-17 15:06                                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-18  7:37                                                     ` martin rudalics
2022-07-18 14:58                                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2022-07-18 15:58                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-18 16:12                                                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-18 16:50                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-19 20:48                                                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-20 12:17                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-20 14:54                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-20 16:02                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-21 15:07                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-21 15:58                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-19  8:09                                                         ` martin rudalics
2022-07-07 15:54                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-04 19:46             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-04 19:59               ` Alan Mackenzie

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