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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	56305@debbugs.gnu.org, acm@muc.de
Subject: bug#56305: 29.0.50; 'yes-or-no-p' deselects minibuffer frame
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 20:01:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YsyBsMpS1LovrmmO@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvk08j60ut.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

Hello, Stefan.

On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 13:06:40 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > Apologies: the doc string for select-window virtually says it grabs the
> > focus.  Couldn't we go the whole way, and explicitly state that
> > select-window is really "select-window-set-input-focus"?

> This sounds problematic at the very least for cases like
> `with-selected-window` and `save-window-excursion`, where we don't
> really want the code to "set and (un/re)set" the focus.  And similarly
> when code does `select-window` while Emacs doesn't have focus at all.

Actually, at the moment I don't believe that select-window does grab the
focus.  I've been a bit confused about this over the last day or so.

> We do have a kind of messy situation w.r.t distinguishing the notion of
> selected-frame (and selected-window to some extend) from its interaction
> with window-manager focus.  But I'm not sure we can (nor should) really
> unify the two.

No.  But if we did, it would be via an extra argument `no-focus' to
select-window.  I still say no.

>         Stefan

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).





  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-11 20:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-29 17:54 bug#56305: 29.0.50; 'yes-or-no-p' deselects minibuffer frame martin rudalics
2022-06-29 19:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-30 10:35   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-30 20:32   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-02 11:38   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-03  8:16     ` martin rudalics
2022-07-03 16:09       ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-03 16:17         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-04 19:10           ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-04 19:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-04 19:43               ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-05  2:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-05 15:59                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-05 16:24                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-05 17:09                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-06 17:04                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-06 17:29                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-06 18:16                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-06 18:34                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-06 18:58                             ` Andreas Schwab
2022-07-06 19:05                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-06 19:09                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2022-07-06 19:22                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-07 17:25                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-07 18:57                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-08 21:03                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-09  2:15                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-07  7:55                             ` martin rudalics
2022-07-07  9:12                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-08  7:01                                 ` martin rudalics
2022-07-08 10:55                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-08 11:55                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-08 18:31                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-09  8:36                                       ` martin rudalics
2022-07-08 21:45                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2022-07-09  8:35                                     ` martin rudalics
2022-07-09 10:57                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-10  8:07                                         ` martin rudalics
2022-07-10 11:34                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-10 11:47                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-10 12:41                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-10 13:01                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-10 16:13                                             ` Drew Adams
2022-07-10 16:55                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-11  7:45                                             ` martin rudalics
2022-07-11 11:12                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-12  7:33                                                 ` martin rudalics
2022-07-12 16:02                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-11 16:22                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-11 16:43                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-11 17:15                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-11 17:33                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-11 17:34                                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-11 20:09                                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-11 17:06                                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-11 20:01                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2022-07-12  7:35                                                 ` martin rudalics
2022-07-12 14:56                                                   ` Drew Adams
2022-07-16  7:06                                                     ` martin rudalics
2022-07-16 20:34                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-18  7:36                                                     ` martin rudalics
2022-07-18 14:44                                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-19  8:09                                                         ` martin rudalics
2022-07-19 16:04                                                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-16 23:39                                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-17 11:29                                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-17 14:03                                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-17 15:06                                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-18  7:37                                                     ` martin rudalics
2022-07-18 14:58                                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-18 15:58                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-18 16:12                                                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-18 16:50                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-19 20:48                                                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-20 12:17                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-20 14:54                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-20 16:02                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-21 15:07                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-21 15:58                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-19  8:09                                                         ` martin rudalics
2022-07-07 15:54                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-04 19:46             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-04 19:59               ` Alan Mackenzie

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