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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
@ 2023-03-10 14:54 Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-10 15:43 ` Drew Adams
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-10 14:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 62096


Hi,

I've found out that 'dired-goto-file' does not work with file name with
spaces in them.  It is only in buffers generated by 'find-dired' (it
works in a "normal" dired buffer).

How to reproduce:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
    emacs -Q --eval "(find-dired \"~\" \"-type f -name \\\"*.jpg\\\"\")"
    
    j a-file-name-without-space.jpg       ;; it jumps to the file
    j vacation 2022/we needed space.jpg   ;; it doesn't
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---



In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-unknown-openbsd7.2, cairo version
 1.17.8) of 2023-03-09 built on computer
Repository revision: 26740f30469c2b13765f986fa65eca8a3a851ba2
Repository branch: master
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101006
System Description: OpenBSD computer 7.2 GENERIC.MP#1052 amd64

Configured using:
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-- 
Manuel Giraud





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 14:54 bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-10 15:43 ` Drew Adams
  2023-03-10 15:59   ` Stephen Berman
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2023-03-10 15:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manuel Giraud, 62096@debbugs.gnu.org

> I've found out that 'dired-goto-file' does not work with file name with
> spaces in them.  It is only in buffers generated by 'find-dired' (it
> works in a "normal" dired buffer).
> 
> How to reproduce:
> 
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>     emacs -Q --eval "(find-dired \"~\" \"-type f -name \\\"*.jpg\\\"\")"
> 
>     j a-file-name-without-space.jpg       ;; it jumps to the file
>     j vacation 2022/we needed space.jpg   ;; it doesn't
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> 
> In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-unknown-openbsd7.2, cairo version

Good catch.  I can confirm seeing the bug (on
MS Windows) also in 28.2 and older versions.

The problem appears to be in `dired-get-filename'.

FWIW, I also see it in my (Dired+) code, except
that in my code I see it only for a file name
that starts with a space, not also for a name
that just has an embedded space.  E.g, I see the
problem for "  space-prefixed-filename" but not
for file "has embedded space".

Not sure what the right fix would be.





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 15:43 ` Drew Adams
@ 2023-03-10 15:59   ` Stephen Berman
  2023-03-10 17:10     ` Drew Adams
  2023-03-10 18:07     ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Stephen Berman @ 2023-03-10 15:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 62096@debbugs.gnu.org, Manuel Giraud

On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 15:43:57 +0000 Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:

>> I've found out that 'dired-goto-file' does not work with file name with
>> spaces in them.  It is only in buffers generated by 'find-dired' (it
>> works in a "normal" dired buffer).
>>
>> How to reproduce:
>>
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>>     emacs -Q --eval "(find-dired \"~\" \"-type f -name \\\"*.jpg\\\"\")"
>>
>>     j a-file-name-without-space.jpg       ;; it jumps to the file
>>     j vacation 2022/we needed space.jpg   ;; it doesn't
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>>
>> In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-unknown-openbsd7.2, cairo version
>
> Good catch.  I can confirm seeing the bug (on
> MS Windows) also in 28.2 and older versions.

I don't see this bug on Emacs 26-30 built on GNU/Linux, i.e. typing `j'
in the find-dired output buffer and completing a file name with spaces
correctly jumps to the line with that file.

Steve Berman





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 15:59   ` Stephen Berman
@ 2023-03-10 17:10     ` Drew Adams
  2023-03-10 18:07     ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2023-03-10 17:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stephen Berman; +Cc: 62096@debbugs.gnu.org, Manuel Giraud

> > Good catch.  I can confirm seeing the bug (on
> > MS Windows) also in 28.2 and older versions.
> 
> I don't see this bug on Emacs 26-30 built on GNU/Linux, i.e. typing `j'
> in the find-dired output buffer and completing a file name with spaces
> correctly jumps to the line with that file.

Interesting.  Perhaps it's a platform difference.
I definitely see it with `emacs -Q'.





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 15:59   ` Stephen Berman
  2023-03-10 17:10     ` Drew Adams
@ 2023-03-10 18:07     ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-10 18:37       ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
                         ` (2 more replies)
  1 sibling, 3 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-10 18:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stephen Berman; +Cc: 62096@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams

Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@gmx.net> writes:

[...]

>> Good catch.  I can confirm seeing the bug (on
>> MS Windows) also in 28.2 and older versions.
>
> I don't see this bug on Emacs 26-30 built on GNU/Linux, i.e. typing `j'
> in the find-dired output buffer and completing a file name with spaces
> correctly jumps to the line with that file.

Thanks both for your feedback.  It could be platform dependent: it is a
edge case and I think most Emacs users are on GNU/Linux.

I've also tried completing the file name but with the same negative
result.  I'm searching...
-- 
Manuel Giraud





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 18:07     ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-10 18:37       ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-10 20:48         ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-11 11:55         ` Eli Zaretskii
  2023-03-10 19:05       ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-10 19:48       ` Drew Adams
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-10 18:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stephen Berman; +Cc: 62096@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams

Ok, so commenting the string-replace at dired.el:3529 in
'dired-goto-file-1' (ie. not replacing " " with "\\ ") does the trick
for me...

That being said those are here for a reason.  It might be a difference
between OpenBSD's find and the GNU one (I don't know for Windows).
-- 
Manuel Giraud





^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 52+ messages in thread

* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 18:07     ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-10 18:37       ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-10 19:05       ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-10 19:55         ` Drew Adams
  2023-03-11 11:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
  2023-03-10 19:48       ` Drew Adams
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-10 19:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stephen Berman; +Cc: 62096@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams

I almost got it.  It comes from the test on the switches used to build
the dired buffer.

For a "standard" dired build with ls, on OpenBSD, I just have "-al" as
switches: no "b" so it doesn't trigger the string-replace.

For a find-dired buffer, on OpenBSD, I have "-gilsb" as switches: there
is a "b" that triggers the string-replace (which is not needed here).

I think that the fix should be "test the b switch only for ls built
dired".  I don't know if it will fix Windows.
-- 
Manuel Giraud





^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 52+ messages in thread

* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 18:07     ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-10 18:37       ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-10 19:05       ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-10 19:48       ` Drew Adams
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2023-03-10 19:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manuel Giraud, Stephen Berman; +Cc: 62096@debbugs.gnu.org

> Thanks both for your feedback.  It could be platform dependent: it is a
> edge case and I think most Emacs users are on GNU/Linux.

That may be, but I think that MS Windows users have
been using file names with SPACE chars for a long
time, and there are many, any such file names.

I'm guessing there's more use of such names on
Windows.  I don't think it's really just a corner
case on Windows.





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 19:05       ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-10 19:55         ` Drew Adams
  2023-03-10 20:42           ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-11 11:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2023-03-10 19:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manuel Giraud, Stephen Berman; +Cc: 62096@debbugs.gnu.org

> I almost got it.  It comes from the test on the switches used to build
> the dired buffer.
> 
> For a "standard" dired build with ls, on OpenBSD, I just have "-al" as
> switches: no "b" so it doesn't trigger the string-replace.
> 
> For a find-dired buffer, on OpenBSD, I have "-gilsb" as switches: there
> is a "b" that triggers the string-replace (which is not needed here).
> 
> I think that the fix should be "test the b switch only for ls built
> dired".  I don't know if it will fix Windows.

In my tests with `emacs -Q`, `dired-listing-switches' is
just "-al", so I'm guessing that going down this road
isn't the right approach (isn't sufficient).





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 19:55         ` Drew Adams
@ 2023-03-10 20:42           ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-10 21:24             ` Drew Adams
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-10 20:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 62096@debbugs.gnu.org, Stephen Berman

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

[...]

> In my tests with `emacs -Q`, `dired-listing-switches' is
> just "-al", so I'm guessing that going down this road
> isn't the right approach (isn't sufficient).

Ok.  And what do you have as 'find-ls-option-default-ls' and
'system-type'?
-- 
Manuel Giraud





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 18:37       ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-10 20:48         ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-10 21:04           ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
                             ` (3 more replies)
  2023-03-11 11:55         ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 4 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-10 20:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 62096; +Cc: stephen.berman, drew.adams, manuel

Manuel Giraud via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> writes:

> Ok, so commenting the string-replace at dired.el:3529 in
> 'dired-goto-file-1' (ie. not replacing " " with "\\ ") does the trick
> for me...
>
> That being said those are here for a reason.  It might be a difference
> between OpenBSD's find and the GNU one (I don't know for Windows).

This bug also affects macOS.  After reading the code I'd say that, even
on GNU/Linux, there are probably other corner cases where
dired-goto-file would fail:

;; FIXME: to fix this for embedded control characters etc, we
;; should escape everything that `ls -b' does.
(setq str (string-replace " " "\\ "  str)
      str (string-replace "\t" "\\t" str)
      str (string-replace "\n" "\\n" str))

For example, on GNU/Linux, ls -b outputs:

vacation\ 2022

while on macOS it outputs:

vacation 2022





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 20:48         ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-10 21:04           ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-11  0:14             ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-10 21:31           ` Drew Adams
                             ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-10 21:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Martín; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams

Daniel Martín <mardani29@yahoo.es> writes:

[...]

> This bug also affects macOS.  After reading the code I'd say that, even
> on GNU/Linux, there are probably other corner cases where
> dired-goto-file would fail:

Thanks for the test.  I have some questions:

    - Have you seen this bug even on a non 'find-dired' buffer?
    
    - Same question as Drew: What are your value of 'system-type' and
      'find-ls-option-default-ls'
-- 
Manuel Giraud





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 20:42           ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-10 21:24             ` Drew Adams
  2023-03-10 21:32               ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2023-03-10 21:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manuel Giraud; +Cc: 62096@debbugs.gnu.org, Stephen Berman

> > In my tests with `emacs -Q`, `dired-listing-switches' is
> > just "-al", so I'm guessing that going down this road
> > isn't the right approach (isn't sufficient).
> 
> Ok.  And what do you have as 'find-ls-option-default-ls' and
> 'system-type'?

`system-type': windows-nt

`find-ls-option-default-ls': In 28.2, ("-ls" . "-dilsb").
In 26.3 there's no such var.


But I should say that I cheated.  For `emacs -Q' I didn't
bother to try to set up Cygwin etc. and actually use
`find-name-dired'.

I just copied the buffer text from my use of `find-name-dired'
in my own setup into a virgin buffer, put that in `dired-mode',
and copied the value of dired-subdir-alist from the find output
buffer in my setup: 
(setq dired-subdir-alist '(("path/to/dir/" . 1)))

So I can't make a solid claim about this.





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 20:48         ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-10 21:04           ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-10 21:31           ` Drew Adams
  2023-03-10 21:43             ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-11 12:00           ` Eli Zaretskii
  2023-03-12 10:55           ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2023-03-10 21:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mardani29, 62096; +Cc: stephen.berman, manuel

I'll just say that whatever changes are made for this bug fix, whoever makes them should be VERY sure.

There are _lots_ of cases where `dired-goto-file(-1)' is used, LOTS.  And it's not just about different platforms.  You're thinking about fiddling with a very basic function here, and the contexts in which it's used are various.





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 21:24             ` Drew Adams
@ 2023-03-10 21:32               ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-10 21:45                 ` Drew Adams
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-10 21:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 62096@debbugs.gnu.org, Stephen Berman

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>> > In my tests with `emacs -Q`, `dired-listing-switches' is
>> > just "-al", so I'm guessing that going down this road
>> > isn't the right approach (isn't sufficient).
>> 
>> Ok.  And what do you have as 'find-ls-option-default-ls' and
>> 'system-type'?
>
> `system-type': windows-nt
>
> `find-ls-option-default-ls': In 28.2, ("-ls" . "-dilsb").
> In 26.3 there's no such var.

Ok.

> But I should say that I cheated.  For `emacs -Q' I didn't
> bother to try to set up Cygwin etc. and actually use
> `find-name-dired'.

Yes but 'find-name-dired' uses 'find-dired' internally.  Is your value
of 'find-program' set to "find"?  And if so, do you know what "find" it
is?
-- 
Manuel Giraud





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 21:31           ` Drew Adams
@ 2023-03-10 21:43             ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-10 21:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, mardani29

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

> I'll just say that whatever changes are made for this bug fix, whoever
> makes them should be VERY sure.

Ok.  I'm just searching and I'm not VERY sure.

> There are _lots_ of cases where `dired-goto-file(-1)' is used, LOTS.
> And it's not just about different platforms.  You're thinking about
> fiddling with a very basic function here, and the contexts in which
> it's used are various.

I know I've found it while using 'image-dired-track-original-file'
feature.
-- 
Manuel Giraud





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 21:32               ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-10 21:45                 ` Drew Adams
  2023-03-10 22:03                   ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2023-03-10 21:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manuel Giraud; +Cc: 62096@debbugs.gnu.org, Stephen Berman

> Yes but 'find-name-dired' uses 'find-dired' internally.  Is your value
> of 'find-program' set to "find"?

Yes.

> And if so, do you know what "find" it is?

Some old Cygwin distribution from 2017.
`C-h v cygwin-mount' tells me "1.4.8".

Again, not saying anything I reported
should be considered definitive.

HTH.






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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 21:45                 ` Drew Adams
@ 2023-03-10 22:03                   ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-10 22:20                     ` Drew Adams
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-10 22:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 62096@debbugs.gnu.org, Stephen Berman

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

> Some old Cygwin distribution from 2017.
> `C-h v cygwin-mount' tells me "1.4.8".

Thanks.  If it works, could you send me (off-list if you prefer) the
content of your `M-x man find'?

> Again, not saying anything I reported
> should be considered definitive.

Duly noted.
-- 
Manuel Giraud





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 22:03                   ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-10 22:20                     ` Drew Adams
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2023-03-10 22:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manuel Giraud; +Cc: 62096@debbugs.gnu.org, Stephen Berman

> > Some old Cygwin distribution from 2017.
> > `C-h v cygwin-mount' tells me "1.4.8".
> 
> Thanks.  If it works, could you send me (off-list if you prefer) the
> content of your `M-x man find'?

FIND(1)                     General Commands Manual                    FIND(1)

NAME
       find - search for files in a directory hierarchy

SYNOPSIS
       find  [-H]  [-L]  [-P]  [-D  debugopts]  [-Olevel]  [starting-point...]
       [expression]

DESCRIPTION
       This manual page documents the GNU version of find.  GNU find  searches
       the  directory  tree  rooted at each given starting-point by evaluating
       the given expression from left to right,  according  to  the  rules  of
       precedence  (see  section  OPERATORS),  until the outcome is known (the
       left hand side is false for and operations,  true  for  or),  at  which
       point  find  moves  on  to the next file name.  If no starting-point is
       specified, `.' is assumed.

       If you are using find in an environment  where  security  is  important
       (for  example  if  you  are  using  it  to  search directories that are
       writable by other users), you should read the "Security Considerations"
       chapter  of  the findutils documentation, which is called Finding Files
       and comes with findutils.   That document  also  includes  a  lot  more
       detail  and discussion than this manual page, so you may find it a more
       useful source of information.

OPTIONS
       The -H, -L and -P options control  the  treatment  of  symbolic  links.
       Command-line  arguments  following these are taken to be names of files
       or directories to be examined, up to the  first  argument  that  begins
       with  `-', or the argument `(' or `!'.  That argument and any following
       arguments are taken to be the  expression  describing  what  is  to  be
       searched  for.   If  no paths are given, the current directory is used.
       If no expression is given, the  expression  -print  is  used  (but  you
       should probably consider using -print0 instead, anyway).

       This  manual  page  talks  about  `options' within the expression list.
       These options control the behaviour of find but are  specified  immedi-
       ately after the last path name.  The five `real' options -H, -L, -P, -D
       and -O must appear before the first path name, if  at  all.   A  double
       dash -- can also be used to signal that any remaining arguments are not
       options (though ensuring that all start points begin with  either  `./'
       or  `/'  is  generally  safer if you use wildcards in the list of start
       points).

       -P     Never follow symbolic links.  This  is  the  default  behaviour.
              When find examines or prints information a file, and the file is
              a symbolic link, the information used shall be  taken  from  the
              properties of the symbolic link itself.

       -L     Follow symbolic links.  When find examines or prints information
              about files, the information used shall be taken from the  prop-
              erties  of  the file to which the link points, not from the link
              itself (unless it is a broken symbolic link or find is unable to
              examine  the file to which the link points).  Use of this option
              implies -noleaf.  If you later use the -P option,  -noleaf  will
              still  be  in  effect.   If -L is in effect and find discovers a
              symbolic link to a subdirectory during its search, the subdirec-
              tory pointed to by the symbolic link will be searched.

              When the -L option is in effect, the -type predicate will always
              match against the type of the file that a symbolic  link  points
              to rather than the link itself (unless the symbolic link is bro-
              ken).  Actions that can cause symbolic links  to  become  broken
              while  find  is executing (for example -delete) can give rise to
              confusing behaviour.  Using -L causes  the  -lname  and  -ilname
              predicates always to return false.

       -H     Do  not  follow symbolic links, except while processing the com-
              mand line arguments.  When find examines or  prints  information
              about  files, the information used shall be taken from the prop-
              erties of the symbolic link itself.   The only exception to this
              behaviour is when a file specified on the command line is a sym-
              bolic link, and the link can be resolved.  For  that  situation,
              the  information  used is taken from whatever the link points to
              (that is, the link is followed).  The information about the link
              itself  is used as a fallback if the file pointed to by the sym-
              bolic link cannot be examined.  If -H is in effect  and  one  of
              the  paths specified on the command line is a symbolic link to a
              directory, the contents  of  that  directory  will  be  examined
              (though of course -maxdepth 0 would prevent this).

       If more than one of -H, -L and -P is specified, each overrides the oth-
       ers; the last one appearing on the command line takes effect.  Since it
       is  the  default,  the  -P  option should be considered to be in effect
       unless either -H or -L is specified.

       GNU find frequently stats files during the processing  of  the  command
       line itself, before any searching has begun.  These options also affect
       how those arguments are processed.  Specifically, there are a number of
       tests  that  compare files listed on the command line against a file we
       are currently considering.  In each case, the  file  specified  on  the
       command  line  will  have been examined and some of its properties will
       have been saved.  If the named file is in fact a symbolic link, and the
       -P  option  is  in effect (or if neither -H nor -L were specified), the
       information used for the comparison will be taken from  the  properties
       of  the symbolic link.  Otherwise, it will be taken from the properties
       of the file the link points to.  If find cannot follow  the  link  (for
       example  because it has insufficient privileges or the link points to a
       nonexistent file) the properties of the link itself will be used.

       When the -H or -L options are in effect, any symbolic links  listed  as
       the  argument of -newer will be dereferenced, and the timestamp will be
       taken from the file to which the symbolic link points.  The  same  con-
       sideration applies to -newerXY, -anewer and -cnewer.

       The  -follow  option has a similar effect to -L, though it takes effect
       at the point where it appears (that is, if -L is not used  but  -follow
       is, any symbolic links appearing after -follow on the command line will
       be dereferenced, and those before it will not).

       -D debugoptions
              Print diagnostic information; this can be  helpful  to  diagnose
              problems  with why find is not doing what you want.  The list of
              debug options should be comma separated.  Compatibility  of  the
              debug  options  is not guaranteed between releases of findutils.
              For a complete list of valid debug options, see  the  output  of
              find -D help.  Valid debug options include

              help   Explain the debugging options

              tree   Show  the  expression  tree in its original and optimised
                     form.

              stat   Print messages as files are examined with  the  stat  and
                     lstat  system  calls.  The find program tries to minimise
                     such calls.

              opt    Prints diagnostic information relating to  the  optimisa-
                     tion of the expression tree; see the -O option.

              rates  Prints a summary indicating how often each predicate suc-
                     ceeded or failed.

       -Olevel
              Enables query optimisation.   The find program reorders tests to
              speed up execution while preserving the overall effect; that is,
              predicates with side effects are not reordered relative to  each
              other.   The  optimisations performed at each optimisation level
              are as follows.

              0      Equivalent to optimisation level 1.

              1      This is the default optimisation level and corresponds to
                     the  traditional behaviour.  Expressions are reordered so
                     that tests based only on the names of files (for  example
                     -name and -regex) are performed first.

              2      Any  -type  or -xtype tests are performed after any tests
                     based only on the names of files, but  before  any  tests
                     that  require information from the inode.  On many modern
                     versions of Unix, file types are  returned  by  readdir()
                     and so these predicates are faster to evaluate than pred-
                     icates which need to stat the file first.  If you use the
                     -fstype  FOO  predicate and specify a filesystem type FOO
                     which is not known (that is, present in  `/etc/mtab')  at
                     the  time  find  starts,  that predicate is equivalent to
                     -false.

              3      At this optimisation level,  the  full  cost-based  query
                     optimiser  is enabled.  The order of tests is modified so
                     that cheap (i.e. fast) tests are performed first and more
                     expensive ones are performed later, if necessary.  Within
                     each cost band, predicates are evaluated earlier or later
                     according  to  whether they are likely to succeed or not.
                     For -o, predicates which are likely to succeed are evalu-
                     ated  earlier, and for -a, predicates which are likely to
                     fail are evaluated earlier.

              The cost-based optimiser has a fixed  idea  of  how  likely  any
              given  test  is to succeed.  In some cases the probability takes
              account of the specific nature of the test (for example, -type f
              is  assumed  to  be  more  likely to succeed than -type c).  The
              cost-based optimiser is currently being evaluated.   If it  does
              not actually improve the performance of find, it will be removed
              again.  Conversely, optimisations that  prove  to  be  reliable,
              robust and effective may be enabled at lower optimisation levels
              over time.  However, the default  behaviour  (i.e.  optimisation
              level  1)  will not be changed in the 4.3.x release series.  The
              findutils test suite runs all the tests on find at each  optimi-
              sation level and ensures that the result is the same.

EXPRESSION
       The  part  of the command line after the list of starting points is the
       expression.  This is a kind of query specification  describing  how  we
       match  files  and  what  we  do  with  the files that were matched.  An
       expression is composed of a sequence of things:

       Tests  Tests return a true or false value, usually on the basis of some
              property  of  a  file  we  are considering.  The -empty test for
              example is true only when the current file is empty.

       Actions
              Actions have side effects (such as  printing  something  on  the
              standard  output) and return either true or false, usually based
              on whether or not they are successful.  The  -print  action  for
              example prints the name of the current file on the standard out-
              put.

       Global options
              Global options affect the operation of tests and actions  speci-
              fied  on  any  part  of the command line.  Global options always
              return true.  The -depth option for example makes find  traverse
              the file system in a depth-first order.

       Positional options
              Positional  optiona  affect  only  tests or actions which follow
              them.  Positional options always return  true.   The  -regextype
              option for example is positional, specifying the regular expres-
              sion dialect for regulat expressions occurring later on the com-
              mand line.

       Operators
              Operators  join  together the other items within the expression.
              They include for example -o (meaning logical OR) and -a (meaning
              logical AND).  Where an operator is missing, -a is assumed.

       If  the  whole  expression  contains  no  actions  other than -prune or
       -print, -print is performed on all files for which the whole expression
       is true.

       The -delete action also acts like an option (since it implies -depth).

   POSITIONAL OPTIONS
       Positional  options  always return true.  They affect only tests occur-
       ring later on the command line.

       -daystart
              Measure times (for -amin,  -atime,  -cmin,  -ctime,  -mmin,  and
              -mtime)  from  the  beginning of today rather than from 24 hours
              ago.  This option only affects tests which appear later  on  the
              command line.

       -follow
              Deprecated;  use  the  -L  option instead.  Dereference symbolic
              links.  Implies -noleaf.  The -follow option affects only  those
              tests  which appear after it on the command line.  Unless the -H
              or -L option has been specified, the  position  of  the  -follow
              option  changes the behaviour of the -newer predicate; any files
              listed as the argument of -newer will be  dereferenced  if  they
              are symbolic links.  The same consideration applies to -newerXY,
              -anewer and -cnewer.  Similarly, the -type predicate will always
              match  against  the type of the file that a symbolic link points
              to rather than the link itself.  Using -follow causes the -lname
              and -ilname predicates always to return false.

       -regextype type
              Changes  the  regular expression syntax understood by -regex and
              -iregex tests which occur later on the  command  line.   To  see
              which  regular  expression types are known, use -regextype help.
              The Texinfo documentation (see SEE ALSO) explains the meaning of
              and differences between the various types of regular expression.

       -warn, -nowarn
              Turn  warning  messages on or off.  These warnings apply only to
              the command line usage, not to any conditions  that  find  might
              encounter  when  it searches directories.  The default behaviour
              corresponds to -warn if standard input is a tty, and to  -nowarn
              otherwise.   If a warning message relating to command-line usage
              is produced, the exit status of find is not  affected.   If  the
              POSIXLY_CORRECT  environment  variable is set, and -warn is also
              used, it is not  specified  which,  if  any,  warnings  will  be
              active.

   GLOBAL OPTIONS
       Global options always return true.  Global options take effect even for
       tests which occurr earlier on the command line.  To prevent  confusion,
       global  options  should specified on the command-line after the list of
       start points, just before the first test, positional option or  action.
       If  you  specify a global option in some other place, find will issue a
       warning message explaining that this can be confusing.

       The global options occur after the list of start points, and so are not
       the same kind of option as -L, for example.

       -d     A  synonym  for  -depth, for compatibility with FreeBSD, NetBSD,
              MacOS X and OpenBSD.

       -depth Process each directory's contents before the  directory  itself.
              The -delete action also implies -depth.

       -help, --help
              Print a summary of the command-line usage of find and exit.

       -ignore_readdir_race
              Normally,  find will emit an error message when it fails to stat
              a file.  If you give this option and a file is  deleted  between
              the  time find reads the name of the file from the directory and
              the time it tries to stat the file, no  error  message  will  be
              issued.    This also applies to files or directories whose names
              are given on the command line.  This option takes effect at  the
              time  the  command  line  is  read,  which means that you cannot
              search one part of the filesystem with this option on  and  part
              of  it  with  this  option off (if you need to do that, you will
              need to issue two find commands instead, one with the option and
              one without it).

       -maxdepth levels
              Descend at most levels (a non-negative integer) levels of direc-
              tories below the starting-points.  -maxdepth 0
               means only apply the tests and actions to  the  starting-points
              themselves.

       -mindepth levels
              Do  not apply any tests or actions at levels less than levels (a
              non-negative integer).  -mindepth  1  means  process  all  files
              except the starting-points.

       -mount Don't  descend  directories  on other filesystems.  An alternate
              name for -xdev, for compatibility with some  other  versions  of
              find.

       -noignore_readdir_race
              Turns off the effect of -ignore_readdir_race.

       -noleaf
              Do  not  optimize  by  assuming that directories contain 2 fewer
              subdirectories than their  hard  link  count.   This  option  is
              needed  when  searching  filesystems that do not follow the Unix
              directory-link convention, such as CD-ROM or MS-DOS  filesystems
              or  AFS  volume  mount  points.  Each directory on a normal Unix
              filesystem has at least 2 hard  links:  its  name  and  its  `.'
              entry.   Additionally,  its  subdirectories (if any) each have a
              `..' entry linked to that directory.  When find is  examining  a
              directory,  after it has statted 2 fewer subdirectories than the
              directory's link count, it knows that the rest of the entries in
              the directory are non-directories (`leaf' files in the directory
              tree).  If only the files' names need to be examined,  there  is
              no  need  to  stat  them;  this  gives a significant increase in
              search speed.

       -version, --version
              Print the find version number and exit.

       -xdev  Don't descend directories on other filesystems.

   TESTS
       Some tests,  for  example  -newerXY  and  -samefile,  allow  comparison
       between the file currently being examined and some reference file spec-
       ified on the command line.  When these tests are used, the  interpreta-
       tion  of  the reference file is determined by the options -H, -L and -P
       and any previous -follow, but the reference file is only examined once,
       at  the  time the command line is parsed.  If the reference file cannot
       be examined (for example, the stat(2) system call  fails  for  it),  an
       error message is issued, and find exits with a nonzero status.

       Numeric arguments can be specified as

       +n     for greater than n,

       -n     for less than n,

       n      for exactly n.

       -amin n
              File was last accessed n minutes ago.

       -anewer file
              File was last accessed more recently than file was modified.  If
              file is a symbolic link and the -H option or the -L option is in
              effect, the access time of the file it points to is always used.

       -atime n
              File  was  last  accessed n*24 hours ago.  When find figures out
              how many 24-hour periods ago the file  was  last  accessed,  any
              fractional part is ignored, so to match -atime +1, a file has to
              have been accessed at least two days ago.

       -cmin n
              File's status was last changed n minutes ago.

       -cnewer file
              File's status was last changed more recently than file was modi-
              fied.   If  file  is a symbolic link and the -H option or the -L
              option is in effect, the  status-change  time  of  the  file  it
              points to is always used.

       -ctime n
              File's status was last changed n*24 hours ago.  See the comments
              for -atime to understand how rounding affects the interpretation
              of file status change times.

       -empty File is empty and is either a regular file or a directory.

       -executable
              Matches  files  which  are  executable and directories which are
              searchable (in a file name resolution sense).  This  takes  into
              account  access  control  lists  and other permissions artefacts
              which the -perm test  ignores.   This  test  makes  use  of  the
              access(2) system call, and so can be fooled by NFS servers which
              do UID mapping (or root-squashing), since many systems implement
              access(2)  in  the client's kernel and so cannot make use of the
              UID mapping information held on the server.  Because  this  test
              is  based only on the result of the access(2) system call, there
              is no guarantee that a file for which  this  test  succeeds  can
              actually be executed.

       -false Always false.

       -fstype type
              File  is  on  a  filesystem  of type type.  The valid filesystem
              types vary among different versions of Unix; an incomplete  list
              of filesystem types that are accepted on some version of Unix or
              another is: ufs, 4.2, 4.3, nfs, tmp, mfs, S51K, S52K.   You  can
              use  -printf  with  the  %F  directive  to see the types of your
              filesystems.

       -gid n File's numeric group ID is n.

       -group gname
              File belongs to group gname (numeric group ID allowed).

       -ilname pattern
              Like -lname, but the match  is  case  insensitive.   If  the  -L
              option  or  the  -follow  option is in effect, this test returns
              false unless the symbolic link is broken.

       -iname pattern
              Like -name, but the match is case insensitive.  For example, the
              patterns  `fo*'  and  `F??'  match  the file names `Foo', `FOO',
              `foo', `fOo', etc.   The pattern `*foo*` will also match a  file
              called '.foobar'.

       -inum n
              File  has  inode  number  n.   It  is normally easier to use the
              -samefile test instead.

       -ipath pattern
              Like -path.  but the match is case insensitive.

       -iregex pattern
              Like -regex, but the match is case insensitive.

       -iwholename pattern
              See -ipath.  This alternative is less portable than -ipath.

       -links n
              File has n links.

       -lname pattern
              File is a symbolic link whose contents match shell pattern  pat-
              tern.  The metacharacters do not treat `/' or `.' specially.  If
              the -L option or the -follow option  is  in  effect,  this  test
              returns false unless the symbolic link is broken.

       -mmin n
              File's data was last modified n minutes ago.

       -mtime n
              File's  data was last modified n*24 hours ago.  See the comments
              for -atime to understand how rounding affects the interpretation
              of file modification times.

       -name pattern
              Base  of  file  name  (the  path  with  the  leading directories
              removed) matches shell pattern  pattern.   Because  the  leading
              directories  are  removed, the file names considered for a match
              with -name will never include a slash, so `-name a/b' will never
              match  anything  (you  probably  need  to use -path instead).  A
              warning is issued if you try to do this, unless the  environment
              variable  POSIXLY_CORRECT is set.  The metacharacters (`*', `?',
              and `[]') match a `.' at the start of the base name (this  is  a
              change  in  findutils-4.2.2;  see  section STANDARDS CONFORMANCE
              below).  To ignore a directory  and  the  files  under  it,  use
              -prune;  see an example in the description of -path.  Braces are
              not recognised as being special,  despite  the  fact  that  some
              shells  including  Bash  imbue  braces with a special meaning in
              shell patterns.  The filename matching is performed with the use
              of  the  fnmatch(3)  library function.   Don't forget to enclose
              the pattern in quotes in order to protect it from  expansion  by
              the shell.

       -newer file
              File  was  modified  more recently than file.  If file is a sym-
              bolic link and the -H option or the -L option is in effect,  the
              modification time of the file it points to is always used.

       -newerXY reference
              Succeeds  if  timestamp  X of the file being considered is newer
              than timestamp Y of the file reference.   The letters  X  and  Y
              can be any of the following letters:

              a   The access time of the file reference
              B   The birth time of the file reference
              c   The inode status change time of reference
              m   The modification time of the file reference
              t   reference is interpreted directly as a time

              Some  combinations are invalid; for example, it is invalid for X
              to be t.  Some combinations are not implemented on all  systems;
              for example B is not supported on all systems.  If an invalid or
              unsupported combination  of  XY  is  specified,  a  fatal  error
              results.   Time  specifications are interpreted as for the argu-
              ment to the -d option of GNU date.  If you try to use the  birth
              time  of  a  reference file, and the birth time cannot be deter-
              mined, a fatal error message results.  If  you  specify  a  test
              which  refers  to  the  birth time of files being examined, this
              test will fail for any files where the birth time is unknown.

       -nogroup
              No group corresponds to file's numeric group ID.

       -nouser
              No user corresponds to file's numeric user ID.

       -path pattern
              File name matches shell pattern pattern.  The metacharacters  do
              not treat `/' or `.' specially; so, for example,
                        find . -path "./sr*sc"
              will  print an entry for a directory called `./src/misc' (if one
              exists).  To ignore a whole directory tree,  use  -prune  rather
              than  checking every file in the tree.  For example, to skip the
              directory `src/emacs' and all files and  directories  under  it,
              and  print the names of the other files found, do something like
              this:
                        find . -path ./src/emacs -prune -o -print
              Note that the pattern match test applies to the whole file name,
              starting from one of the start points named on the command line.
              It would only make sense to use an absolute path  name  here  if
              the  relevant  start point is also an absolute path.  This means
              that this command will never match anything:
                        find bar -path /foo/bar/myfile -print
              Find compares the -path argument with  the  concatenation  of  a
              directory  name  and  the  base name of the file it's examining.
              Since the concatenation will never end with a slash, -path argu-
              ments  ending  in  a  slash will match nothing (except perhaps a
              start point specified on the command line).  The predicate -path
              is  also  supported  by  HP-UX find and will be in a forthcoming
              version of the POSIX standard.

       -perm mode
              File's permission bits are exactly  mode  (octal  or  symbolic).
              Since  an  exact match is required, if you want to use this form
              for symbolic modes, you may have to  specify  a  rather  complex
              mode  string.   For  example  `-perm  g=w' will only match files
              which have mode 0020 (that is, ones for which group  write  per-
              mission is the only permission set).  It is more likely that you
              will want to use the `/' or `-' forms, for example `-perm -g=w',
              which  matches  any  file  with group write permission.  See the
              EXAMPLES section for some illustrative examples.

       -perm -mode
              All of the permission bits mode are set for the file.   Symbolic
              modes  are accepted in this form, and this is usually the way in
              which you would want to use them.  You must specify `u', `g'  or
              `o'  if  you use a symbolic mode.   See the EXAMPLES section for
              some illustrative examples.

       -perm /mode
              Any of the permission bits mode are set for the file.   Symbolic
              modes  are  accepted in this form.  You must specify `u', `g' or
              `o' if you use a symbolic mode.  See the  EXAMPLES  section  for
              some  illustrative  examples.  If no permission bits in mode are
              set, this test matches any file (the idea here is to be  consis-
              tent with the behaviour of -perm -000).

       -perm +mode
              This  is  no  longer  supported  (and  has been deprecated since
              2005).  Use -perm /mode instead.

       -readable
              Matches files which  are  readable.   This  takes  into  account
              access  control  lists and other permissions artefacts which the
              -perm test ignores.  This test makes use of the access(2) system
              call,  and  so can be fooled by NFS servers which do UID mapping
              (or root-squashing), since many systems implement  access(2)  in
              the  client's  kernel  and so cannot make use of the UID mapping
              information held on the server.

       -regex pattern
              File name matches regular expression pattern.  This is  a  match
              on  the  whole path, not a search.  For example, to match a file
              named `./fubar3', you can use the regular expression `.*bar.' or
              `.*b.*3',  but  not `f.*r3'.  The regular expressions understood
              by find are by default Emacs Regular Expressions, but  this  can
              be changed with the -regextype option.

       -samefile name
              File  refers  to the same inode as name.   When -L is in effect,
              this can include symbolic links.

       -size n[cwbkMG]
              File uses n units of space, rounding up.  The following suffixes
              can be used:

              `b'    for  512-byte blocks (this is the default if no suffix is
                     used)

              `c'    for bytes

              `w'    for two-byte words

              `k'    for Kilobytes (units of 1024 bytes)

              `M'    for Megabytes (units of 1048576 bytes)

              `G'    for Gigabytes (units of 1073741824 bytes)

              The size does not count  indirect  blocks,  but  it  does  count
              blocks in sparse files that are not actually allocated.  Bear in
              mind that the `%k' and `%b' format specifiers of -printf  handle
              sparse   files  differently.   The  `b'  suffix  always  denotes
              512-byte blocks and never 1 Kilobyte blocks, which is  different
              to  the  behaviour of -ls.  The + and - prefixes signify greater
              than and less than, as usual, but bear in mind that the size  is
              rounded  up to the next unit (so a 1-byte file is not matched by
              -size -1M).

       -true  Always true.

       -type c
              File is of type c:

              b      block (buffered) special

              c      character (unbuffered) special

              d      directory

              p      named pipe (FIFO)

              f      regular file

              l      symbolic link; this is never true if the -L option or the
                     -follow  option is in effect, unless the symbolic link is
                     broken.  If you want to search for symbolic links when -L
                     is in effect, use -xtype.

              s      socket

              D      door (Solaris)

       -uid n File's numeric user ID is n.

       -used n
              File was last accessed n days after its status was last changed.

       -user uname
              File is owned by user uname (numeric user ID allowed).

       -wholename pattern
              See -path.  This alternative is less portable than -path.

       -writable
              Matches  files  which  are  writable.   This  takes into account
              access control lists and other permissions artefacts  which  the
              -perm test ignores.  This test makes use of the access(2) system
              call, and so can be fooled by NFS servers which do  UID  mapping
              (or  root-squashing),  since many systems implement access(2) in
              the client's kernel and so cannot make use of  the  UID  mapping
              information held on the server.

       -xtype c
              The  same as -type unless the file is a symbolic link.  For sym-
              bolic links: if the -H or -P option was specified, true  if  the
              file  is  a  link to a file of type c; if the -L option has been
              given, true if c is `l'.  In other words,  for  symbolic  links,
              -xtype checks the type of the file that -type does not check.

       -context pattern
              (SELinux  only)  Security  context of the file matches glob pat-
              tern.

   ACTIONS
       -delete
              Delete files; true if removal succeeded.  If the removal failed,
              an  error message is issued.  If -delete fails, find's exit sta-
              tus will be nonzero (when it eventually exits).  Use of  -delete
              automatically turns on the `-depth' option.

              Warnings:  Don't  forget that the find command line is evaluated
              as an expression, so putting -delete first will make find try to
              delete everything below the starting points you specified.  When
              testing a find command line that you later intend  to  use  with
              -delete,  you should explicitly specify -depth in order to avoid
              later surprises.  Because -delete  implies  -depth,  you  cannot
              usefully use -prune and -delete together.

       -exec command ;
              Execute  command;  true  if 0 status is returned.  All following
              arguments to find are taken to be arguments to the command until
              an  argument  consisting of `;' is encountered.  The string `{}'
              is replaced by the current file name being processed  everywhere
              it occurs in the arguments to the command, not just in arguments
              where it is alone, as in some versions of find.  Both  of  these
              constructions might need to be escaped (with a `\') or quoted to
              protect them from expansion by the shell.  See the EXAMPLES sec-
              tion for examples of the use of the -exec option.  The specified
              command is run once for each matched file.  The command is  exe-
              cuted  in  the starting directory.   There are unavoidable secu-
              rity problems surrounding use of the -exec  action;  you  should
              use the -execdir option instead.

       -exec command {} +
              This  variant  of the -exec action runs the specified command on
              the selected files, but the command line is built  by  appending
              each  selected file name at the end; the total number of invoca-
              tions of the command will  be  much  less  than  the  number  of
              matched  files.   The command line is built in much the same way
              that xargs builds its command lines.  Only one instance of  `{}'
              is  allowed  within the command.  The command is executed in the
              starting directory.  If find encounters an error, this can some-
              times  cause an immediate exit, so some pending commands may not
              be run at all.  This variant of -exec always returns true.

       -execdir command ;

       -execdir command {} +
              Like -exec, but the specified command is run from the  subdirec-
              tory  containing  the  matched  file,  which is not normally the
              directory in which you started find.  This a  much  more  secure
              method  for invoking commands, as it avoids race conditions dur-
              ing resolution of the paths to the matched files.  As  with  the
              -exec action, the `+' form of -execdir will build a command line
              to process more than one matched file, but any given  invocation
              of command will only list files that exist in the same subdirec-
              tory.  If you use this option, you must ensure that  your  $PATH
              environment  variable  does  not  reference  `.';  otherwise, an
              attacker can run any commands they like by leaving an  appropri-
              ately-named  file in a directory in which you will run -execdir.
              The same applies to having entries in $PATH which are  empty  or
              which  are  not absolute directory names.  If find encounters an
              error, this can sometimes cause an immediate exit, so some pend-
              ing  commands  may  not  be run at all. The result of the action
              depends on whether the  +  or  the  ;  variant  is  being  used;
              -execdir  command  {} + always returns true, while -execdir com-
              mand {} ; returns true only if command returns 0.

       -fls file
              True; like -ls but write to file like -fprint.  The output  file
              is  always created, even if the predicate is never matched.  See
              the UNUSUAL FILENAMES section for information about how  unusual
              characters in filenames are handled.

       -fprint file
              True; print the full file name into file file.  If file does not
              exist when find is run, it is created; if it does exist,  it  is
              truncated.   The  file names `/dev/stdout' and `/dev/stderr' are
              handled specially; they refer to the standard output  and  stan-
              dard error output, respectively.  The output file is always cre-
              ated, even if the predicate is never matched.  See  the  UNUSUAL
              FILENAMES  section  for information about how unusual characters
              in filenames are handled.

       -fprint0 file
              True; like -print0 but write to file like -fprint.   The  output
              file  is always created, even if the predicate is never matched.
              See the UNUSUAL FILENAMES  section  for  information  about  how
              unusual characters in filenames are handled.

       -fprintf file format
              True;  like  -printf but write to file like -fprint.  The output
              file is always created, even if the predicate is never  matched.
              See  the  UNUSUAL  FILENAMES  section  for information about how
              unusual characters in filenames are handled.

       -ls    True; list current file in ls -dils format on  standard  output.
              The  block counts are of 1K blocks, unless the environment vari-
              able POSIXLY_CORRECT is set, in which case 512-byte  blocks  are
              used.   See  the UNUSUAL FILENAMES section for information about
              how unusual characters in filenames are handled.

       -ok command ;
              Like -exec but ask the user first.  If the user agrees, run  the
              command.   Otherwise  just return false.  If the command is run,
              its standard input is redirected from /dev/null.

              The response to the prompt is matched against a pair of  regular
              expressions  to  determine  if  it is an affirmative or negative
              response.  This regular expression is obtained from  the  system
              if  the `POSIXLY_CORRECT' environment variable is set, or other-
              wise from find's message translations.  If  the  system  has  no
              suitable  definition,  find's  own definition will be used.   In
              either case, the interpretation of the regular expression itself
              will  be affected by the environment variables 'LC_CTYPE' (char-
              acter classes) and 'LC_COLLATE' (character  ranges  and  equiva-
              lence classes).

       -okdir command ;
              Like -execdir but ask the user first in the same way as for -ok.
              If the user does not agree, just return false.  If  the  command
              is run, its standard input is redirected from /dev/null.

       -print True;  print the full file name on the standard output, followed
              by a newline.   If you  are  piping  the  output  of  find  into
              another  program  and there is the faintest possibility that the
              files which you are searching for might contain a newline,  then
              you  should  seriously consider using the -print0 option instead
              of -print.  See the UNUSUAL FILENAMES  section  for  information
              about how unusual characters in filenames are handled.

       -print0
              True;  print the full file name on the standard output, followed
              by a null character  (instead  of  the  newline  character  that
              -print  uses).   This allows file names that contain newlines or
              other types of white space to be correctly interpreted  by  pro-
              grams  that process the find output.  This option corresponds to
              the -0 option of xargs.

       -printf format
              True; print format on  the  standard  output,  interpreting  `\'
              escapes  and `%' directives.  Field widths and precisions can be
              specified as with the `printf' C  function.   Please  note  that
              many  of  the  fields are printed as %s rather than %d, and this
              may mean that flags don't work as you might expect.   This  also
              means  that the `-' flag does work (it forces fields to be left-
              aligned).  Unlike -print, -printf does not add a newline at  the
              end of the string.  The escapes and directives are:

              \a     Alarm bell.

              \b     Backspace.

              \c     Stop  printing from this format immediately and flush the
                     output.

              \f     Form feed.

              \n     Newline.

              \r     Carriage return.

              \t     Horizontal tab.

              \v     Vertical tab.

              \0     ASCII NUL.

              \\     A literal backslash (`\').

              \NNN   The character whose ASCII code is NNN (octal).

              A `\' character followed by any other character is treated as an
              ordinary character, so they both are printed.

              %%     A literal percent sign.

              %a     File's  last  access time in the format returned by the C
                     `ctime' function.

              %Ak    File's last access time in the  format  specified  by  k,
                     which  is  either `@' or a directive for the C `strftime'
                     function.  The possible values for k  are  listed  below;
                     some  of  them might not be available on all systems, due
                     to differences in `strftime' between systems.

                     @      seconds since Jan. 1, 1970, 00:00 GMT, with  frac-
                            tional part.

                     Time fields:

                     H      hour (00..23)

                     I      hour (01..12)

                     k      hour ( 0..23)

                     l      hour ( 1..12)

                     M      minute (00..59)

                     p      locale's AM or PM

                     r      time, 12-hour (hh:mm:ss [AP]M)

                     S      Second  (00.00  ..  61.00).  There is a fractional
                            part.

                     T      time, 24-hour (hh:mm:ss)

                     +      Date and  time,  separated  by  `+',  for  example
                            `2004-04-28+22:22:05.0'.  This is a GNU extension.
                            The time is given in the current  timezone  (which
                            may  be  affected  by  setting  the TZ environment
                            variable).  The seconds  field  includes  a  frac-
                            tional part.

                     X      locale's time representation (H:M:S)

                     Z      time  zone (e.g., EDT), or nothing if no time zone
                            is determinable

                     Date fields:

                     a      locale's abbreviated weekday name (Sun..Sat)

                     A      locale's full weekday name, variable length  (Sun-
                            day..Saturday)

                     b      locale's abbreviated month name (Jan..Dec)

                     B      locale's  full  month name, variable length (Janu-
                            ary..December)

                     c      locale's date and time (Sat Nov  04  12:02:33  EST
                            1989).  The format is the same as for ctime(3) and
                            so to preserve  compatibility  with  that  format,
                            there is no fractional part in the seconds field.

                     d      day of month (01..31)

                     D      date (mm/dd/yy)

                     h      same as b

                     j      day of year (001..366)

                     m      month (01..12)

                     U      week  number  of  year with Sunday as first day of
                            week (00..53)

                     w      day of week (0..6)

                     W      week number of year with Monday as  first  day  of
                            week (00..53)

                     x      locale's date representation (mm/dd/yy)

                     y      last two digits of year (00..99)

                     Y      year (1970...)

              %b     The  amount  of disk space used for this file in 512-byte
                     blocks.  Since disk space is allocated  in  multiples  of
                     the  filesystem  block  size this is usually greater than
                     %s/512, but it can also be  smaller  if  the  file  is  a
                     sparse file.

              %c     File's  last status change time in the format returned by
                     the C `ctime' function.

              %Ck    File's last status change time in the format specified by
                     k, which is the same as for %A.

              %d     File's depth in the directory tree; 0 means the file is a
                     starting-point.

              %D     The device number on which the file  exists  (the  st_dev
                     field of struct stat), in decimal.

              %f     File's  name  with  any leading directories removed (only
                     the last element).

              %F     Type of the filesystem the file is on; this value can  be
                     used for -fstype.

              %g     File's  group  name, or numeric group ID if the group has
                     no name.

              %G     File's numeric group ID.

              %h     Leading directories of file's name (all but the last ele-
                     ment).  If the file name contains no slashes (since it is
                     in the current directory) the  %h  specifier  expands  to
                     ".".

              %H     Starting-point under which file was found.

              %i     File's inode number (in decimal).

              %k     The amount of disk space used for this file in 1K blocks.
                     Since  disk  space  is  allocated  in  multiples  of  the
                     filesystem  block  size  this  is  usually  greater  than
                     %s/1024, but it can also be smaller  if  the  file  is  a
                     sparse file.

              %l     Object  of  symbolic  link (empty string if file is not a
                     symbolic link).

              %m     File's permission bits (in octal).  This option uses  the
                     `traditional'  numbers  which  most  Unix implementations
                     use,  but  if  your  particular  implementation  uses  an
                     unusual  ordering of octal permissions bits, you will see
                     a difference between the actual value of the file's  mode
                     and  the output of %m.   Normally you will want to have a
                     leading zero on this number, and to do this,  you  should
                     use the # flag (as in, for example, `%#m').

              %M     File's  permissions  (in symbolic form, as for ls).  This
                     directive is supported in findutils 4.2.5 and later.

              %n     Number of hard links to file.

              %p     File's name.

              %P     File's name with the name  of  the  starting-point  under
                     which it was found removed.

              %s     File's size in bytes.

              %S     File's   sparseness.    This  is  calculated  as  (BLOCK-
                     SIZE*st_blocks / st_size).  The exact value you will  get
                     for an ordinary file of a certain length is system-depen-
                     dent.  However, normally sparse files  will  have  values
                     less  than  1.0,  and files which use indirect blocks may
                     have a value which is greater than 1.0.   The value  used
                     for  BLOCKSIZE  is  system-dependent,  but is usually 512
                     bytes.   If the file size is zero, the value  printed  is
                     undefined.   On systems which lack support for st_blocks,
                     a file's sparseness is assumed to be 1.0.

              %t     File's last modification time in the format  returned  by
                     the C `ctime' function.

              %Tk    File's  last modification time in the format specified by
                     k, which is the same as for %A.

              %u     File's user name, or numeric user ID if the user  has  no
                     name.

              %U     File's numeric user ID.

              %y     File's  type  (like  in ls -l), U=unknown type (shouldn't
                     happen)

              %Y     File's type (like  %y),  plus  follow  symlinks:  L=loop,
                     N=nonexistent

              %Z     (SELinux only) file's security context.

              %{ %[ %(
                     Reserved for future use.

              A  `%'  character  followed by any other character is discarded,
              but the other character is printed (don't rely on this, as  fur-
              ther  format characters may be introduced).  A `%' at the end of
              the format argument causes undefined behaviour since there is no
              following  character.   In  some  locales, it may hide your door
              keys, while in others it may remove  the  final  page  from  the
              novel you are reading.

              The  %m and %d directives support the # , 0 and + flags, but the
              other directives do not, even if they  print  numbers.   Numeric
              directives that do not support these flags include G, U, b, D, k
              and n.  The `-' format flag is supported and changes the  align-
              ment  of  a field from right-justified (which is the default) to
              left-justified.

              See the UNUSUAL FILENAMES  section  for  information  about  how
              unusual characters in filenames are handled.

       -prune True;  if  the  file is a directory, do not descend into it.  If
              -depth is given, false;  no  effect.   Because  -delete  implies
              -depth, you cannot usefully use -prune and -delete together.

       -quit  Exit  immediately.  No child processes will be left running, but
              no more paths specified on the command line will  be  processed.
              For example, find /tmp/foo /tmp/bar -print -quit will print only
              /tmp/foo.  Any command lines  which  have  been  built  up  with
              -execdir  ... {} + will be invoked before find exits.   The exit
              status may or may not be zero, depending on whether an error has
              already occurred.

   OPERATORS
       Listed in order of decreasing precedence:

       ( expr )
              Force  precedence.   Since parentheses are special to the shell,
              you will normally need to quote them.  Many of the  examples  in
              this  manual  page  use  backslashes for this purpose: `\(...\)'
              instead of `(...)'.

       ! expr True if expr is false.  This character will  also  usually  need
              protection from interpretation by the shell.

       -not expr
              Same as ! expr, but not POSIX compliant.

       expr1 expr2
              Two  expressions in a row are taken to be joined with an implied
              "and"; expr2 is not evaluated if expr1 is false.

       expr1 -a expr2
              Same as expr1 expr2.

       expr1 -and expr2
              Same as expr1 expr2, but not POSIX compliant.

       expr1 -o expr2
              Or; expr2 is not evaluated if expr1 is true.

       expr1 -or expr2
              Same as expr1 -o expr2, but not POSIX compliant.

       expr1 , expr2
              List; both expr1 and expr2 are always evaluated.  The  value  of
              expr1 is discarded; the value of the list is the value of expr2.
              The comma operator can be useful for searching for several  dif-
              ferent  types  of thing, but traversing the filesystem hierarchy
              only once.  The -fprintf action can be used to list the  various
              matched items into several different output files.

UNUSUAL FILENAMES
       Many  of  the  actions  of find result in the printing of data which is
       under the control of other users.  This  includes  file  names,  sizes,
       modification  times  and  so forth.  File names are a potential problem
       since they can contain any character  except  `\0'  and  `/'.   Unusual
       characters in file names can do unexpected and often undesirable things
       to your terminal (for example, changing the settings of  your  function
       keys on some terminals).  Unusual characters are handled differently by
       various actions, as described below.

       -print0, -fprint0
              Always print the exact filename, unchanged, even if  the  output
              is going to a terminal.

       -ls, -fls
              Unusual  characters are always escaped.  White space, backslash,
              and double quote characters are printed using  C-style  escaping
              (for  example `\f', `\"').  Other unusual characters are printed
              using an octal escape.  Other printable characters (for -ls  and
              -fls  these  are  the characters between octal 041 and 0176) are
              printed as-is.

       -printf, -fprintf
              If the output is not going to a terminal, it is  printed  as-is.
              Otherwise, the result depends on which directive is in use.  The
              directives %D, %F, %g, %G, %H, %Y, and %y expand to values which
              are  not  under control of files' owners, and so are printed as-
              is.  The directives %a, %b, %c, %d, %i, %k, %m, %M, %n, %s,  %t,
              %u and %U have values which are under the control of files' own-
              ers but which cannot be used to send arbitrary data to the  ter-
              minal,  and  so these are printed as-is.  The directives %f, %h,
              %l, %p and %P are quoted.  This quoting is performed in the same
              way  as  for  GNU ls.  This is not the same quoting mechanism as
              the one used for -ls and -fls.  If you are able to  decide  what
              format  to use for the output of find then it is normally better
              to use `\0' as a terminator than to use newline, as  file  names
              can  contain white space and newline characters.  The setting of
              the `LC_CTYPE' environment variable is used to  determine  which
              characters need to be quoted.

       -print, -fprint
              Quoting  is handled in the same way as for -printf and -fprintf.
              If you are using find in a script or in a  situation  where  the
              matched  files  might  have arbitrary names, you should consider
              using -print0 instead of -print.

       The -ok and -okdir actions print the current filename as-is.  This  may
       change in a future release.

STANDARDS CONFORMANCE
       For  closest  compliance  to  the  POSIX  standard,  you should set the
       POSIXLY_CORRECT environment variable.  The following options are speci-
       fied in the POSIX standard (IEEE Std 1003.1, 2003 Edition):

       -H     This option is supported.

       -L     This option is supported.

       -name  This  option  is supported, but POSIX conformance depends on the
              POSIX conformance of the system's fnmatch(3)  library  function.
              As  of  findutils-4.2.2,  shell metacharacters (`*', `?' or `[]'
              for example) will match a leading `.', because IEEE PASC  inter-
              pretation  126  requires  this.   This is a change from previous
              versions of findutils.

       -type  Supported.   POSIX specifies `b', `c', `d', `l',  `p',  `f'  and
              `s'.  GNU find also supports `D', representing a Door, where the
              OS provides these.

       -ok    Supported.  Interpretation of the response is according  to  the
              "yes"  and  "no"  patterns selected by setting the `LC_MESSAGES'
              environment variable.  When  the  `POSIXLY_CORRECT'  environment
              variable is set, these patterns are taken system's definition of
              a positive (yes) or negative (no) response.   See  the  system's
              documentation  for  nl_langinfo(3),  in  particular  YESEXPR and
              NOEXPR.    When `POSIXLY_CORRECT' is not set, the  patterns  are
              instead taken from find's own message catalogue.

       -newer Supported.   If  the  file  specified  is a symbolic link, it is
              always dereferenced.  This is a change from previous  behaviour,
              which used to take the relevant time from the symbolic link; see
              the HISTORY section below.

       -perm  Supported.  If the POSIXLY_CORRECT environment variable  is  not
              set,  some mode arguments (for example +a+x) which are not valid
              in POSIX are supported for backward-compatibility.

       Other predicates
              The predicates -atime, -ctime, -depth, -group,  -links,  -mtime,
              -nogroup,  -nouser,  -print,  -prune,  -size,  -user  and  -xdev
              `-atime',  `-ctime',  `-depth',  `-group',  `-links',  `-mtime',
              `-nogroup',  `-nouser',  `-perm',  `-print',  `-prune', `-size',
              `-user' and `-xdev', are all supported.

       The POSIX standard specifies parentheses `(', `)', negation `!' and the
       `and' and `or' operators ( -a, -o).

       All  other options, predicates, expressions and so forth are extensions
       beyond the POSIX standard.  Many of these extensions are not unique  to
       GNU find, however.

       The POSIX standard requires that find detects loops:

              The  find utility shall detect infinite loops; that is, entering
              a previously visited directory that is an ancestor of  the  last
              file  encountered.  When it detects an infinite loop, find shall
              write a diagnostic message to standard error  and  shall  either
              recover its position in the hierarchy or terminate.

       GNU  find complies with these requirements.  The link count of directo-
       ries which contain entries which are hard links  to  an  ancestor  will
       often  be  lower than they otherwise should be.  This can mean that GNU
       find will sometimes optimise away the visiting of a subdirectory  which
       is  actually a link to an ancestor.  Since find does not actually enter
       such a subdirectory, it is allowed to avoid emitting a diagnostic  mes-
       sage.   Although  this  behaviour  may  be  somewhat  confusing,  it is
       unlikely that anybody actually depends on this behaviour.  If the  leaf
       optimisation has been turned off with -noleaf, the directory entry will
       always be examined and the diagnostic message will be issued  where  it
       is  appropriate.   Symbolic  links  cannot be used to create filesystem
       cycles as such, but if the -L option or the -follow option is in use, a
       diagnostic  message  is  issued when find encounters a loop of symbolic
       links.  As with loops containing hard links, the leaf optimisation will
       often  mean  that  find  knows  that  it doesn't need to call stat() or
       chdir() on the symbolic link, so this diagnostic is frequently not nec-
       essary.

       The  -d option is supported for compatibility with various BSD systems,
       but you should use the POSIX-compliant option -depth instead.

       The POSIXLY_CORRECT environment variable does not affect the  behaviour
       of  the -regex or -iregex tests because those tests aren't specified in
       the POSIX standard.

ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES
       LANG   Provides a default value for the internationalization  variables
              that are unset or null.

       LC_ALL If  set  to a non-empty string value, override the values of all
              the other internationalization variables.

       LC_COLLATE
              The POSIX standard specifies that this variable affects the pat-
              tern  matching  to be used for the -name option.   GNU find uses
              the fnmatch(3) library function, and so support for `LC_COLLATE'
              depends on the system library.    This variable also affects the
              interpretation of the response to -ok; while  the  `LC_MESSAGES'
              variable  selects  the  actual  pattern  used  to  interpret the
              response to -ok, the interpretation of any  bracket  expressions
              in the pattern will be affected by `LC_COLLATE'.

       LC_CTYPE
              This variable affects the treatment of character classes used in
              regular expressions and also with the -name test,  if  the  sys-
              tem's  fnmatch(3) library function supports this.  This variable
              also affects the interpretation of any character classes in  the
              regular expressions used to interpret the response to the prompt
              issued by -ok.  The `LC_CTYPE' environment  variable  will  also
              affect  which  characters  are considered to be unprintable when
              filenames are printed; see the section UNUSUAL FILENAMES.

       LC_MESSAGES
              Determines the locale to be used for internationalised messages.
              If  the `POSIXLY_CORRECT' environment variable is set, this also
              determines the interpretation of the response to the prompt made
              by the -ok action.

       NLSPATH
              Determines the location of the internationalisation message cat-
              alogues.

       PATH   Affects the directories which are searched to find the  executa-
              bles invoked by -exec, -execdir, -ok and -okdir.

       POSIXLY_CORRECT
              Determines the block size used by -ls and -fls.  If POSIXLY_COR-
              RECT is set, blocks are units of 512 bytes.  Otherwise they  are
              units of 1024 bytes.

              Setting  this variable also turns off warning messages (that is,
              implies -nowarn) by default, because POSIX requires  that  apart
              from  the  output  for  -ok,  all messages printed on stderr are
              diagnostics and must result in a non-zero exit status.

              When POSIXLY_CORRECT is not set, -perm +zzz is treated just like
              -perm  /zzz  if  +zzz  is  not  a  valid  symbolic  mode.   When
              POSIXLY_CORRECT is set, such constructs are treated as an error.

              When POSIXLY_CORRECT is set, the response to the prompt made  by
              the  -ok action is interpreted according to the system's message
              catalogue, as opposed to according to find's own message  trans-
              lations.

       TZ     Affects  the  time zone used for some of the time-related format
              directives of -printf and -fprintf.

EXAMPLES
       find /tmp -name core -type f -print | xargs /bin/rm -f

       Find files named core in or below the directory /tmp and  delete  them.
       Note  that  this  will work incorrectly if there are any filenames con-
       taining newlines, single or double quotes, or spaces.

       find /tmp -name core -type f -print0 | xargs -0 /bin/rm -f

       Find files named core in or below the directory /tmp and  delete  them,
       processing  filenames  in  such a way that file or directory names con-
       taining single or double quotes, spaces or newlines are correctly  han-
       dled.   The  -name  test  comes before the -type test in order to avoid
       having to call stat(2) on every file.

       find . -type f -exec file '{}' \;

       Runs `file' on every file in or below the  current  directory.   Notice
       that the braces are enclosed in single quote marks to protect them from
       interpretation as shell script punctuation.  The semicolon is similarly
       protected  by  the  use of a backslash, though single quotes could have
       been used in that case also.

       find / \( -perm -4000 -fprintf /root/suid.txt '%#m %u %p\n' \) , \
       \( -size +100M -fprintf /root/big.txt '%-10s %p\n' \)

       Traverse the filesystem just once, listing setuid files and directories
       into /root/suid.txt and large files into /root/big.txt.

       find $HOME -mtime 0

       Search for files in your home directory which have been modified in the
       last twenty-four hours.  This command works this way because  the  time
       since  each  file  was  last  modified  is  divided by 24 hours and any
       remainder is discarded.  That means that to match -mtime 0, a file will
       have  to  have  a  modification in the past which is less than 24 hours
       ago.

       find /sbin /usr/sbin -executable \! -readable -print

       Search for files which are executable but not readable.

       find . -perm 664

       Search for files which have read and write permission for their  owner,
       and  group,  but  which  other  users can read but not write to.  Files
       which meet these criteria but have  other  permissions  bits  set  (for
       example if someone can execute the file) will not be matched.

       find . -perm -664

       Search  for  files which have read and write permission for their owner
       and group, and which other users can read, without regard to the  pres-
       ence  of  any  extra  permission bits (for example the executable bit).
       This will match a file which has mode 0777, for example.

       find . -perm /222

       Search for files which are writable by somebody (their owner, or  their
       group, or anybody else).

       find . -perm /220
       find . -perm /u+w,g+w
       find . -perm /u=w,g=w

       All  three  of these commands do the same thing, but the first one uses
       the octal representation of the file mode, and the other  two  use  the
       symbolic  form.  These commands all search for files which are writable
       by either their owner or their group.   The  files  don't  have  to  be
       writable by both the owner and group to be matched; either will do.

       find . -perm -220
       find . -perm -g+w,u+w

       Both  these  commands  do  the  same  thing; search for files which are
       writable by both their owner and their group.

       find . -perm -444 -perm /222 ! -perm /111
       find . -perm -a+r -perm /a+w ! -perm /a+x

       These two commands both search for files that are readable  for  every-
       body  (  -perm  -444  or -perm -a+r), have at least one write bit set (
       -perm /222 or -perm /a+w) but are not executable for anybody ( !  -perm
       /111 and ! -perm /a+x respectively).

       cd /source-dir
       find . -name .snapshot -prune -o \( \! -name *~ -print0 \)|
       cpio -pmd0 /dest-dir

       This command copies the contents of /source-dir to /dest-dir, but omits
       files and directories named .snapshot (and anything in them).  It  also
       omits  files  or  directories  whose name ends in ~, but not their con-
       tents.  The construct -prune -o \( ... -print0 \) is quite common.  The
       idea here is that the expression before -prune matches things which are
       to be pruned.  However, the -prune action itself returns true,  so  the
       following  -o  ensures  that  the right hand side is evaluated only for
       those directories which didn't get pruned (the contents of  the  pruned
       directories  are  not  even visited, so their contents are irrelevant).
       The expression on the right hand side of the -o is in parentheses  only
       for  clarity.   It  emphasises that the -print0 action takes place only
       for things that didn't  have  -prune  applied  to  them.   Because  the
       default  `and' condition between tests binds more tightly than -o, this
       is the default anyway, but the parentheses help to show what  is  going
       on.

       find repo/ -exec test -d {}/.svn \; -or \
       -exec test -d {}/.git \; -or -exec test -d {}/CVS \; \
       -print -prune

       Given  the  following  directory  of  projects and their associated SCM
       administrative  directories,  perform  an  efficient  search  for   the
       projects' roots:

       repo/project1/CVS
       repo/gnu/project2/.svn
       repo/gnu/project3/.svn
       repo/gnu/project3/src/.svn
       repo/project4/.git

       In  this  example, -prune prevents unnecessary descent into directories
       that have already  been  discovered  (for  example  we  do  not  search
       project3/src  because we already found project3/.svn), but ensures sib-
       ling directories (project2 and project3) are found.

EXIT STATUS
       find exits with status 0  if  all  files  are  processed  successfully,
       greater  than  0  if  errors occur.   This is deliberately a very broad
       description, but if the return value is non-zero, you should  not  rely
       on the correctness of the results of find.

       When  some  error occurs, find may stop immediately, without completing
       all the actions specified.  For example, some starting points  may  not
       have been examined or some pending program invocations for -exec ... {}
       + or -execdir ... {} + may not have been performed.

SEE ALSO
       locate(1), locatedb(5), updatedb(1),  xargs(1),  chmod(1),  fnmatch(3),
       regex(7), stat(2), lstat(2), ls(1), printf(3), strftime(3), ctime(3)

       The  full documentation for find is maintained as a Texinfo manual.  If
       the info and find programs are properly installed  at  your  site,  the
       command info find should give you access to the complete manual.

HISTORY
       As of findutils-4.2.2, shell metacharacters (`*', `?' or `[]' for exam-
       ple) used in filename patterns will match a leading `.',  because  IEEE
       POSIX interpretation 126 requires this.

       As  of  findutils-4.3.3,  -perm  /000  now matches all files instead of
       none.

       Nanosecond-resolution timestamps were implemented in findutils-4.3.3.

       As of findutils-4.3.11, the -delete action sets find's exit status to a
       nonzero  value when it fails.  However, find will not exit immediately.
       Previously, find's  exit  status  was  unaffected  by  the  failure  of
       -delete.

       Feature                Added in   Also occurs in
       -newerXY               4.3.3      BSD
       -D                     4.3.1
       -O                     4.3.1
       -readable              4.3.0
       -writable              4.3.0
       -executable            4.3.0
       -regextype             4.2.24
       -exec ... +            4.2.12     POSIX
       -execdir               4.2.12     BSD
       -okdir                 4.2.12
       -samefile              4.2.11
       -H                     4.2.5      POSIX
       -L                     4.2.5      POSIX
       -P                     4.2.5      BSD
       -delete                4.2.3
       -quit                  4.2.3
       -d                     4.2.3      BSD

       -wholename             4.2.0
       -iwholename            4.2.0
       -ignore_readdir_race   4.2.0
       -fls                   4.0
       -ilname                3.8
       -iname                 3.8
       -ipath                 3.8
       -iregex                3.8

       The  syntax  -perm  +MODE was removed in findutils-4.5.12, in favour of
       -perm /MODE.   The  +MODE  syntax  had  been  deprecated  since  findu-
       tils-4.2.21 which was released in 2005.

NON-BUGS
       $ find . -name *.c -print
       find: paths must precede expression
       Usage: find [-H] [-L] [-P] [-Olevel] [-D help|tree|search|stat|rates|opt|exec] [path...] [expression]

       This  happens  because  *.c has been expanded by the shell resulting in
       find actually receiving a command line like this:

       find . -name bigram.c code.c frcode.c locate.c -print

       That command is of course not going to work.  Instead of  doing  things
       this  way, you should enclose the pattern in quotes or escape the wild-
       card:
       $ find . -name '*.c' -print
       $ find . -name \*.c -print

BUGS
       There are security problems inherent in the behaviour  that  the  POSIX
       standard  specifies  for  find,  which  therefore cannot be fixed.  For
       example, the -exec action is inherently insecure, and  -execdir  should
       be used instead.  Please see Finding Files for more information.

       The environment variable LC_COLLATE has no effect on the -ok action.

       The  best  way  to  report  a  bug  is to use the form at http://savan-
       nah.gnu.org/bugs/?group=findutils.  The reason for  this  is  that  you
       will then be able to track progress in fixing the problem.   Other com-
       ments about find(1) and about the findutils package in general  can  be
       sent  to  the bug-findutils mailing list.  To join the list, send email
       to bug-findutils-request@gnu.org.

                                                                       FIND(1)





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 21:04           ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-11  0:14             ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-11 14:02               ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-11  0:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manuel Giraud; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams

Manuel Giraud <manuel@ledu-giraud.fr> writes:

> Daniel Martín <mardani29@yahoo.es> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>> This bug also affects macOS.  After reading the code I'd say that, even
>> on GNU/Linux, there are probably other corner cases where
>> dired-goto-file would fail:
>
> Thanks for the test.  I have some questions:
>
>     - Have you seen this bug even on a non 'find-dired' buffer?
>

I haven't noticed this problem in regular Dired buffers, only in
find-dired buffers.

>     - Same question as Drew: What are your value of 'system-type' and
>       'find-ls-option-default-ls'

system-type
=> darwin

find-ls-option-default-ls
=> ("-ls" . "-dilsb")





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 18:37       ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-10 20:48         ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-11 11:55         ` Eli Zaretskii
  2023-03-11 14:12           ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-03-11 11:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manuel Giraud; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams

> Cc: "62096@debbugs.gnu.org" <62096@debbugs.gnu.org>,
>  Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 19:37:44 +0100
> From:  Manuel Giraud via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
> 
> Ok, so commenting the string-replace at dired.el:3529 in
> 'dired-goto-file-1' (ie. not replacing " " with "\\ ") does the trick
> for me...
> 
> That being said those are here for a reason.  It might be a difference
> between OpenBSD's find and the GNU one (I don't know for Windows).

This bug doesn't happen on Windows, so please don't remove the
replacement unconditionally.  There's some other factor at work here.





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 19:05       ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-10 19:55         ` Drew Adams
@ 2023-03-11 11:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-03-11 11:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manuel Giraud; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams

> Cc: "62096@debbugs.gnu.org" <62096@debbugs.gnu.org>,
>  Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 20:05:04 +0100
> From:  Manuel Giraud via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
> 
> I almost got it.  It comes from the test on the switches used to build
> the dired buffer.
> 
> For a "standard" dired build with ls, on OpenBSD, I just have "-al" as
> switches: no "b" so it doesn't trigger the string-replace.
> 
> For a find-dired buffer, on OpenBSD, I have "-gilsb" as switches: there
> is a "b" that triggers the string-replace (which is not needed here).
> 
> I think that the fix should be "test the b switch only for ls built
> dired".  I don't know if it will fix Windows.

Sorry, I don't understand: this bug report started with running
find-dired, but now you are talking about something different AFAIU?

On MS-Windows, Emacs doesn't use ls, it uses ls-lisp.el, and that
emulation doesn't support the -b switch of ls.  Not sure what this
means, since I don't yet understand what are you describing and how is
the -b switch relevant.





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 20:48         ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-10 21:04           ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-10 21:31           ` Drew Adams
@ 2023-03-11 12:00           ` Eli Zaretskii
  2023-03-12 10:55           ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-03-11 12:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Martín; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, manuel, drew.adams

> Cc: stephen.berman@gmx.net, drew.adams@oracle.com, manuel@ledu-giraud.fr
> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 21:48:04 +0100
> From:  Daniel Martín via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
> 
> Manuel Giraud via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
> text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > Ok, so commenting the string-replace at dired.el:3529 in
> > 'dired-goto-file-1' (ie. not replacing " " with "\\ ") does the trick
> > for me...
> >
> > That being said those are here for a reason.  It might be a difference
> > between OpenBSD's find and the GNU one (I don't know for Windows).
> 
> This bug also affects macOS.  After reading the code I'd say that, even
> on GNU/Linux, there are probably other corner cases where
> dired-goto-file would fail:
> 
> ;; FIXME: to fix this for embedded control characters etc, we
> ;; should escape everything that `ls -b' does.
> (setq str (string-replace " " "\\ "  str)
>       str (string-replace "\t" "\\t" str)
>       str (string-replace "\n" "\\n" str))
> 
> For example, on GNU/Linux, ls -b outputs:
> 
> vacation\ 2022
> 
> while on macOS it outputs:
> 
> vacation 2022

Shouldn't we be talking ab out what "find ... -ls" produces instead?





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-11  0:14             ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-11 14:02               ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-11 14:17                 ` Eli Zaretskii
  2023-03-11 17:09                 ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-11 14:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Martín; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams

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Hi,

So here is a patch that should fix *BSD and macOS.  For Windows, I don't
know if it is the right fix (so it does nothing on Windows, sorry Drew).

I choose "-dgils" because FreeBSD, NetBSD and macOS man pages state the
following about -ls switch for find(1):
The format is identical to that produced by "ls -dgils".

On OpenBSD, the find(1) man page says:
The format is identical to that produced by "ls -dils".

But the "-g" switch does not seems to do something different when the
"-l" is present.

For testing without recompiling Emacs, one could evaluate this:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq find-ls-option-default-ls
  (cons "-ls" (if (or (eq system-type 'berkeley-unix)
                      (eq system-type 'darwin))
                  "-dgils"
                "-dilsb")))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Daniel: I'd like to hear what it does on macOS.

Drew: You could test on your system by "forcing"
'find-ls-option-default-ls' with the following:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq find-ls-option-default-ls (cons "-ls" "-dils"))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

This patch was produce on the main branch but FWIW I think it should
also go on emacs-29.


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From c9d343babc2ddc65066082669639964a7ddba017 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Manuel Giraud <manuel@ledu-giraud.fr>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 21:54:00 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Fix 'find-ls-option-default-ls' for BSD/MacOS (bug#62096)

* lisp/find-dired.el (find-ls-option-default-ls): Adapt to a value
that works with OpenBSD and should also work with (Free|Net)BSD and
Darwin/MacOS.
---
 lisp/find-dired.el | 5 ++++-
 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/lisp/find-dired.el b/lisp/find-dired.el
index 33376ee4ed9..8f5aaa5f682 100644
--- a/lisp/find-dired.el
+++ b/lisp/find-dired.el
@@ -51,7 +51,10 @@ find-exec-terminator
   :type 'string)
 
 (defvar find-ls-option-default-ls
-  (cons "-ls" (if (eq system-type 'berkeley-unix) "-gilsb" "-dilsb")))
+  (cons "-ls" (if (or (eq system-type 'berkeley-unix)
+                      (eq system-type 'darwin))
+                  "-dgils"
+                "-dilsb")))
 
 (defvar find-ls-option-default-exec
   (cons (format "-exec ls -ld {} %s" find-exec-terminator) "-ld"))
-- 
2.39.1


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-- 
Manuel Giraud

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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-11 11:55         ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-03-11 14:12           ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-11 14:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

[...]

> This bug doesn't happen on Windows, so please don't remove the
> replacement unconditionally.  There's some other factor at work here.

Hi Eli,

Yes, removing this replacement was just for testing.  My final patch is
just a modification of 'find-ls-option-default-ls' and AFAIK it won't do
anything on Windows.
-- 
Manuel Giraud





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-11 14:02               ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-11 14:17                 ` Eli Zaretskii
  2023-03-11 14:27                   ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-12 10:54                   ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-11 17:09                 ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-03-11 14:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manuel Giraud; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams, mardani29

> Cc: 62096@debbugs.gnu.org, stephen.berman@gmx.net, drew.adams@oracle.com
> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2023 15:02:44 +0100
> From:  Manuel Giraud via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
> 
> This patch was produce on the main branch but FWIW I think it should
> also go on emacs-29.

I'm okay with installing this on emacs-29, since macOS is supposed to
be a variant of BSD.

But please don't change the values for any other systems, not on the
release branch anyway.

Thanks.





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-11 14:17                 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-03-11 14:27                   ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-17  7:49                     ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-12 10:54                   ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-11 14:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams, mardani29

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> Cc: 62096@debbugs.gnu.org, stephen.berman@gmx.net, drew.adams@oracle.com
>> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2023 15:02:44 +0100
>> From:  Manuel Giraud via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
>> 
>> This patch was produce on the main branch but FWIW I think it should
>> also go on emacs-29.
>
> I'm okay with installing this on emacs-29, since macOS is supposed to
> be a variant of BSD.
>
> But please don't change the values for any other systems, not on the
> release branch anyway.

I think that my patch does just that: it modifies the value for
'berkeley-unix or 'darwin systems only.  Before you would install it on
emacs-29, I'd like to see what it does on macOS (Daniel seems to run
this system).
-- 
Manuel Giraud





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-11 14:02               ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-11 14:17                 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-03-11 17:09                 ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-11 18:46                   ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-11 17:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manuel Giraud; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams

Manuel Giraud <manuel@ledu-giraud.fr> writes:

> Hi,
>
> So here is a patch that should fix *BSD and macOS.  For Windows, I don't
> know if it is the right fix (so it does nothing on Windows, sorry Drew).
>
> I choose "-dgils" because FreeBSD, NetBSD and macOS man pages state the
> following about -ls switch for find(1):
> The format is identical to that produced by "ls -dgils".
>
> On OpenBSD, the find(1) man page says:
> The format is identical to that produced by "ls -dils".
>
> But the "-g" switch does not seems to do something different when the
> "-l" is present.

This is what I see on macOS:

$ find . -name "*.jpg" -ls
93775284        0 -rw-r--r--    1 dmartin          staff                   0 Mar 10 18:33 ./we needed space.jpg

$ ls -dgils *.jpg
93775284 0 -rw-r--r--  1 staff  0 Mar 10 18:33 we needed space.jpg
$ ls -dils *.jpg
93775284 0 -rw-r--r--  1 dmartin  staff  0 Mar 10 18:33 we needed space.jpg

The -g switch seems to add/remove the group column, despite the man page
saying that the switch has no effect.

As you can see, the output of find -ls on macOS really seems to match
the output of ls -dils better, which is in concordance with the OpenBSD
documentation.

>
> For testing without recompiling Emacs, one could evaluate this:
>
> (setq find-ls-option-default-ls
>   (cons "-ls" (if (or (eq system-type 'berkeley-unix)
>                       (eq system-type 'darwin))
>                   "-dgils"
>                 "-dilsb")))
>
>
> Daniel: I'd like to hear what it does on macOS.
>

I've tested your patch and it seems to work fine on macOS.  However,
users can install GNU findutils on macOS, and in those systems the bug
would still be present.

Is there a more reliable way to discern between GNU find and other find
implementations, without checking the system-type?

I know the GNU version of find supports --version, while the macOS find
returns an error, but I don't know how reliable that check would be.





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-11 17:09                 ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-11 18:46                   ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-11 19:30                     ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-11 18:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Martín; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams

Daniel Martín <mardani29@yahoo.es> writes:

[...]

>> For testing without recompiling Emacs, one could evaluate this:
>>
>> (setq find-ls-option-default-ls
>>   (cons "-ls" (if (or (eq system-type 'berkeley-unix)
>>                       (eq system-type 'darwin))
>>                   "-dgils"
>>                 "-dilsb")))
>>
>>
>> Daniel: I'd like to hear what it does on macOS.
>>
>
> I've tested your patch and it seems to work fine on macOS.  However,
> users can install GNU findutils on macOS, and in those systems the bug
> would still be present.

Thanks for those tests.

> Is there a more reliable way to discern between GNU find and other find
> implementations, without checking the system-type?

Maybe this can be the subject for another bug report?  Or you can
improve on this one?  WDYT?

Me, I think that we could apply as is to emacs-29.  FreeBSD and NetBSD
have not been tested on but at least we are in line with their find(1)
man page.  Is there any other 'berkeley-unix system?
-- 
Manuel Giraud





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-11 18:46                   ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-11 19:30                     ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-11 19:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manuel Giraud; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams

Manuel Giraud <manuel@ledu-giraud.fr> writes:

>
>> Is there a more reliable way to discern between GNU find and other find
>> implementations, without checking the system-type?
>
> Maybe this can be the subject for another bug report?  Or you can
> improve on this one?  WDYT?
>

Yes, that can be a separate report.  If the check can be improved, it
probably affects more than find-dired.

> Me, I think that we could apply as is to emacs-29.  FreeBSD and NetBSD
> have not been tested on but at least we are in line with their find(1)
> man page.  Is there any other 'berkeley-unix system?

Looking at configure.ac, there's also https://www.dragonflybsd.org/, but
it looks like just another FreeBSD.





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-11 14:17                 ` Eli Zaretskii
  2023-03-11 14:27                   ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-12 10:54                   ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-12 11:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
  2023-03-12 17:51                     ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-12 10:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams, Manuel Giraud, mardani29

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> Cc: 62096@debbugs.gnu.org, stephen.berman@gmx.net, drew.adams@oracle.com
>> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2023 15:02:44 +0100
>> From:  Manuel Giraud via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
>> 
>> This patch was produce on the main branch but FWIW I think it should
>> also go on emacs-29.
>
> I'm okay with installing this on emacs-29, since macOS is supposed to
> be a variant of BSD.
>
> But please don't change the values for any other systems, not on the
> release branch anyway.
>
> Thanks.

IICU filenames with embedded spaces and newlines are not supposed to
work without GNU ls, which implements a `--dired' option just for Emacs.
Admittedly that isn't the best situation, but it is not a regression
from Emacs 28.

Would someone please explain what the problem here is?





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-10 20:48         ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
                             ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2023-03-11 12:00           ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-03-12 10:55           ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-12 10:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Martín; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, manuel, drew.adams

Daniel Martín <mardani29@yahoo.es> writes:

> Manuel Giraud via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
> text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> Ok, so commenting the string-replace at dired.el:3529 in
>> 'dired-goto-file-1' (ie. not replacing " " with "\\ ") does the trick
>> for me...
>>
>> That being said those are here for a reason.  It might be a difference
>> between OpenBSD's find and the GNU one (I don't know for Windows).
>
> This bug also affects macOS.  After reading the code I'd say that, even
> on GNU/Linux, there are probably other corner cases where
> dired-goto-file would fail:
>
> ;; FIXME: to fix this for embedded control characters etc, we
> ;; should escape everything that `ls -b' does.
> (setq str (string-replace " " "\\ "  str)
>       str (string-replace "\t" "\\t" str)
>       str (string-replace "\n" "\\n" str))
>
> For example, on GNU/Linux, ls -b outputs:
>
> vacation\ 2022
>
> while on macOS it outputs:
>
> vacation 2022

`ls --dired -l'  outputs a huge swath of numbers and options for Dired
detailing, among other information, the quoting style being used.





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-12 10:54                   ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-12 11:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
  2023-03-12 11:56                       ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-12 17:51                     ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-03-12 11:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Po Lu; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams, manuel, mardani29

> From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
> Cc: Manuel Giraud <manuel@ledu-giraud.fr>,  62096@debbugs.gnu.org,
>   stephen.berman@gmx.net,  drew.adams@oracle.com,  mardani29@yahoo.es
> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2023 18:54:44 +0800
> 
> IICU filenames with embedded spaces and newlines are not supposed to
> work without GNU ls, which implements a `--dired' option just for Emacs.

That's not entirely accurate: ls-lisp.el also implements the
functionality for which --dired is required: it puts the special text
property on file names just like we do when we get --dired.  So the
related features also work on MS-Windows (and on any other platform if
ls-lisp.el is used).





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-12 11:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-03-12 11:56                       ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-12 11:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams, manuel, mardani29

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
>> Cc: Manuel Giraud <manuel@ledu-giraud.fr>,  62096@debbugs.gnu.org,
>>   stephen.berman@gmx.net,  drew.adams@oracle.com,  mardani29@yahoo.es
>> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2023 18:54:44 +0800
>> 
>> IICU filenames with embedded spaces and newlines are not supposed to
>> work without GNU ls, which implements a `--dired' option just for Emacs.
>
> That's not entirely accurate: ls-lisp.el also implements the
> functionality for which --dired is required: it puts the special text
> property on file names just like we do when we get --dired.  So the
> related features also work on MS-Windows (and on any other platform if
> ls-lisp.el is used).

Oh, that's quite nice.  I didn't know this before, thanks.





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-12 10:54                   ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-12 11:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-03-12 17:51                     ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-12 17:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Po Lu; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, stephen.berman, 62096, drew.adams, mardani29

Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> writes:

[...]

> Would someone please explain what the problem here is?

Are you talking about the initial problem?  If so, here it is:

On some non GNU/Linux system, if you use 'find-dired' to collect some
files 'dired-goto-file' won't work on files whose name contains space.

FWIW, "ls" is not involved here, only "find" and how Emacs should
interpret its output with the "-ls" flag.
-- 
Manuel Giraud





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-11 14:27                   ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-17  7:49                     ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-17  8:33                       ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-17  7:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams, mardani29

Hi,

So do you think this could go in emacs-29?
-- 
Manuel Giraud





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-17  7:49                     ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-17  8:33                       ` Eli Zaretskii
  2023-03-17  9:12                         ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-03-17  8:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manuel Giraud; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams, mardani29

> From: Manuel Giraud <manuel@ledu-giraud.fr>
> Cc: mardani29@yahoo.es,  62096@debbugs.gnu.org,  stephen.berman@gmx.net,
>   drew.adams@oracle.com
> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2023 08:49:47 +0100
> 
> So do you think this could go in emacs-29?
> -- 
> Manuel Giraud

If you mean the patch posted here:

  https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=62096#89

then it's okay for emacs-29, but please use memq instead of two eq
test against two literals system-type values.

Thanks.





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-17  8:33                       ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-03-17  9:12                         ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-17 11:33                           ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-17  9:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams, mardani29

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Manuel Giraud <manuel@ledu-giraud.fr>
>> Cc: mardani29@yahoo.es,  62096@debbugs.gnu.org,  stephen.berman@gmx.net,
>>   drew.adams@oracle.com
>> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2023 08:49:47 +0100
>> 
>> So do you think this could go in emacs-29?
>> -- 
>> Manuel Giraud
>
> If you mean the patch posted here:
>
>   https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=62096#89

Yes, I was talking about this one.

> then it's okay for emacs-29, but please use memq instead of two eq
> test against two literals system-type values.

Here is the new version.  I also modified the commit message a bit.

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From d866c95800bec46dedff6c038f5c566ccb14b642 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Manuel Giraud <manuel@ledu-giraud.fr>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 21:54:00 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Fix 'find-ls-option-default-ls' for BSD/MacOS (bug#62096)

* lisp/find-dired.el (find-ls-option-default-ls): Adapt to a value
that works with the default "find" on *BSD and Darwin/MacOS.  Tested
on OpenBSD and MacOS.
---
 lisp/find-dired.el | 4 +++-
 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/lisp/find-dired.el b/lisp/find-dired.el
index 33376ee4ed9..af029fb2074 100644
--- a/lisp/find-dired.el
+++ b/lisp/find-dired.el
@@ -51,7 +51,9 @@ find-exec-terminator
   :type 'string)
 
 (defvar find-ls-option-default-ls
-  (cons "-ls" (if (eq system-type 'berkeley-unix) "-gilsb" "-dilsb")))
+  (cons "-ls" (if (memq system-type '(berkeley-unix darwin))
+                  "-dgils"
+                "-dilsb")))
 
 (defvar find-ls-option-default-exec
   (cons (format "-exec ls -ld {} %s" find-exec-terminator) "-ld"))
-- 
2.39.2


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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-17  9:12                         ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-17 11:33                           ` Eli Zaretskii
  2023-03-17 15:25                             ` Drew Adams
  2023-03-17 17:54                             ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-03-17 11:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manuel Giraud; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams, mardani29

> From: Manuel Giraud <manuel@ledu-giraud.fr>
> Cc: mardani29@yahoo.es,  62096@debbugs.gnu.org,  stephen.berman@gmx.net,
>   drew.adams@oracle.com
> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2023 10:12:05 +0100
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >   https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=62096#89
> 
> Yes, I was talking about this one.
> 
> > then it's okay for emacs-29, but please use memq instead of two eq
> > test against two literals system-type values.
> 
> Here is the new version.  I also modified the commit message a bit.

LGTM, thanks.





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-17 11:33                           ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-03-17 15:25                             ` Drew Adams
  2023-03-17 15:41                               ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-17 16:26                               ` Eli Zaretskii
  2023-03-17 17:54                             ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2023-03-17 15:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii, Manuel Giraud
  Cc: 62096@debbugs.gnu.org, stephen.berman@gmx.net, mardani29@yahoo.es

Did this bug actually get fixed for ls-lisp also, e.g. MS Windows?  I thought not, but I haven't followed this closely.

If this isn't yet fixed generally, then shouldn't the bug be kept open, perhaps limiting it to ls-lisp or whatever else still needs to be done?

IOW, will closing this bug be appropriate for ls-lisp users? Isn't the bug as reported still a bug, for ls-lisp users?





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-17 15:25                             ` Drew Adams
@ 2023-03-17 15:41                               ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-17 16:14                                 ` Drew Adams
  2023-03-17 16:26                               ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-17 15:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Drew Adams
  Cc: Eli Zaretskii, stephen.berman@gmx.net, 62096@debbugs.gnu.org,
	mardani29@yahoo.es

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

> Did this bug actually get fixed for ls-lisp also, e.g. MS Windows?  I
> thought not, but I haven't followed this closely.

No I don't think so.  The current patch just affects non GNU find.

> If this isn't yet fixed generally, then shouldn't the bug be kept
> open, perhaps limiting it to ls-lisp or whatever else still needs to
> be done?
>
> IOW, will closing this bug be appropriate for ls-lisp users? Isn't the
> bug as reported still a bug, for ls-lisp users?

That makes sense: the current patch does fix on some arch but not all.
AFAIU, I don't think it related to ls-lisp: it is about find.
-- 
Manuel Giraud





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-17 15:41                               ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-17 16:14                                 ` Drew Adams
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2023-03-17 16:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manuel Giraud
  Cc: Eli Zaretskii, stephen.berman@gmx.net, 62096@debbugs.gnu.org,
	mardani29@yahoo.es

> > IOW, will closing this bug be appropriate for ls-lisp users? Isn't the
> > bug as reported still a bug, for ls-lisp users?
> 
> That makes sense: the current patch does fix on some arch but not all.
> AFAIU, I don't think it related to ls-lisp: it is about find.

Maybe the bug as described is fixed for some platforms by fixing a particular `find' command (?).  But isn't the bug as described still a bug for users of `ls-lisp'?

That's my question.  If it's still a bug, then shouldn't we keep it open?

IOW, let's not confuse a _solution_ for some contexts with the _problem_.  Of course, if someone can test the fix with use of `ls-lisp', and if it solves the problem for that context also, then great.  I can't do that, so I'm just guessing.  Thx.





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-17 15:25                             ` Drew Adams
  2023-03-17 15:41                               ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-17 16:26                               ` Eli Zaretskii
  2023-03-17 17:20                                 ` Drew Adams
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-03-17 16:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, manuel, mardani29

> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> CC: "mardani29@yahoo.es" <mardani29@yahoo.es>,
>         "62096@debbugs.gnu.org"
> 	<62096@debbugs.gnu.org>,
>         "stephen.berman@gmx.net" <stephen.berman@gmx.net>
> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2023 15:25:44 +0000
> 
> Did this bug actually get fixed for ls-lisp also, e.g. MS Windows?  I thought not, but I haven't followed this closely.

There's nothing to fix in ls-lisp.  The problem is in find-dired, not
in ls-lisp.

> If this isn't yet fixed generally, then shouldn't the bug be kept open, perhaps limiting it to ls-lisp or whatever else still needs to be done?
> 
> IOW, will closing this bug be appropriate for ls-lisp users? Isn't the bug as reported still a bug, for ls-lisp users?

Why do you think this has anything to do with ls-lisp?





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-17 16:26                               ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-03-17 17:20                                 ` Drew Adams
  2023-03-17 17:50                                   ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-17 18:42                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2023-03-17 17:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii
  Cc: 62096@debbugs.gnu.org, stephen.berman@gmx.net,
	manuel@ledu-giraud.fr, mardani29@yahoo.es

> > Did this bug actually get fixed for ls-lisp also, e.g. MS Windows?  I
> thought not, but I haven't followed this closely.
> 
> There's nothing to fix in ls-lisp.  The problem is in find-dired, not
> in ls-lisp.
> 
> > If this isn't yet fixed generally, then shouldn't the bug be kept open,
> perhaps limiting it to ls-lisp or whatever else still needs to be done?
> >
> > IOW, will closing this bug be appropriate for ls-lisp users? Isn't the
> bug as reported still a bug, for ls-lisp users?
> 
> Why do you think this has anything to do with ls-lisp?

Just a guess, based on some statements by Manuel
such as this one:

  My final patch is just a modification of
  'find-ls-option-default-ls' and AFAIK it
  won't do anything on Windows.

And on the patch you've cited being just this,
which seems to only add darwin to the same case
as berkley-unix, having no effect for Windows:

 (defvar find-ls-option-default-ls
 -  (cons "-ls" (if (eq system-type 'berkeley-unix) "-gilsb" "-dilsb")))
 +  (cons "-ls" (if (or (eq system-type 'berkeley-unix)
 +                      (eq system-type 'darwin))
 +                  "-dgils"
 +                "-dilsb")))

But I guess you're confirming that the fix is
for MS Windows (which uses `ls-lisp') also.
I don't see how that can be the case, but if
it is then great.  Thx.





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-17 17:20                                 ` Drew Adams
@ 2023-03-17 17:50                                   ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-17 18:56                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
  2023-03-17 18:42                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-17 17:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Drew Adams
  Cc: Eli Zaretskii, stephen.berman@gmx.net, 62096@debbugs.gnu.org,
	mardani29@yahoo.es

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

[...]

>  (defvar find-ls-option-default-ls
>  -  (cons "-ls" (if (eq system-type 'berkeley-unix) "-gilsb" "-dilsb")))
>  +  (cons "-ls" (if (or (eq system-type 'berkeley-unix)
>  +                      (eq system-type 'darwin))
>  +                  "-dgils"
>  +                "-dilsb")))
>
> But I guess you're confirming that the fix is
> for MS Windows (which uses `ls-lisp') also.
> I don't see how that can be the case, but if
> it is then great.  Thx.

No I do not think it fixes anything on Windows.  But "ls-lisp" is also
not involved.  If I understand correctly, 'find-ls-option-default-ls' is
the interpretation - in terms of ls switches - that dired does of a
"find -ls" command.
-- 
Manuel Giraud





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-17 11:33                           ` Eli Zaretskii
  2023-03-17 15:25                             ` Drew Adams
@ 2023-03-17 17:54                             ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-17 18:57                               ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-17 17:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams, mardani29

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

[...]

>> Here is the new version.  I also modified the commit message a bit.
>
> LGTM, thanks.

Sorry, here is another version.  WDYT?  Maybe, Drew you could test it to
see if it fixes the bug for you.


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From e1c08afc943358e5afb49478f40722ebbf3cc07f Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Manuel Giraud <manuel@ledu-giraud.fr>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 21:54:00 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Fix 'find-ls-option-default-ls' for BSD/MacOS (bug#62096)

* lisp/find-dired.el (find-gnu-find-p): New variable to determine
if "find" is a GNU find.
(find-ls-option-default-ls): Use 'find-gnu-find-p' and adapt to a
value that works with the default "find" on *BSD and Darwin/MacOS.
Tested on OpenBSD and MacOS.
---
 lisp/find-dired.el | 7 ++++++-
 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/lisp/find-dired.el b/lisp/find-dired.el
index 33376ee4ed9..264c6e3082f 100644
--- a/lisp/find-dired.el
+++ b/lisp/find-dired.el
@@ -50,8 +50,13 @@ find-exec-terminator
   :group 'find-dired
   :type 'string)
 
+(defvar find-gnu-find-p
+  (eq 0 (ignore-errors
+          (process-file find-program nil nil nil null-device "--version")))
+  "T if 'find-program' is a GNU find.  NIL otherwise.")
+
 (defvar find-ls-option-default-ls
-  (cons "-ls" (if (eq system-type 'berkeley-unix) "-gilsb" "-dilsb")))
+  (cons "-ls" (if find-gnu-find-p "-dilsb" "-dgils")))
 
 (defvar find-ls-option-default-exec
   (cons (format "-exec ls -ld {} %s" find-exec-terminator) "-ld"))
-- 
2.39.2


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-- 
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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-17 17:20                                 ` Drew Adams
  2023-03-17 17:50                                   ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-17 18:42                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-03-17 18:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, manuel, mardani29

> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> CC: "manuel@ledu-giraud.fr" <manuel@ledu-giraud.fr>,
>         "mardani29@yahoo.es"
> 	<mardani29@yahoo.es>,
>         "62096@debbugs.gnu.org" <62096@debbugs.gnu.org>,
>         "stephen.berman@gmx.net" <stephen.berman@gmx.net>
> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2023 17:20:52 +0000
> 
> And on the patch you've cited being just this,
> which seems to only add darwin to the same case
> as berkley-unix, having no effect for Windows:
> 
>  (defvar find-ls-option-default-ls
>  -  (cons "-ls" (if (eq system-type 'berkeley-unix) "-gilsb" "-dilsb")))
>  +  (cons "-ls" (if (or (eq system-type 'berkeley-unix)
>  +                      (eq system-type 'darwin))
>  +                  "-dgils"
>  +                "-dilsb")))
> 
> But I guess you're confirming that the fix is
> for MS Windows (which uses `ls-lisp') also.
> I don't see how that can be the case, but if
> it is then great.  Thx.

The patch changes options passed to the 'find' program.  It has
nothing to do with ls-lisp, which is not involved in find-dired.





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-17 17:50                                   ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-17 18:56                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-03-17 18:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manuel Giraud; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams, mardani29

> From: Manuel Giraud <manuel@ledu-giraud.fr>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  "mardani29@yahoo.es"
>  <mardani29@yahoo.es>,  "62096@debbugs.gnu.org" <62096@debbugs.gnu.org>,
>   "stephen.berman@gmx.net" <stephen.berman@gmx.net>
> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2023 18:50:41 +0100
> 
> Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
> 
> [...]
> 
> >  (defvar find-ls-option-default-ls
> >  -  (cons "-ls" (if (eq system-type 'berkeley-unix) "-gilsb" "-dilsb")))
> >  +  (cons "-ls" (if (or (eq system-type 'berkeley-unix)
> >  +                      (eq system-type 'darwin))
> >  +                  "-dgils"
> >  +                "-dilsb")))
> >
> > But I guess you're confirming that the fix is
> > for MS Windows (which uses `ls-lisp') also.
> > I don't see how that can be the case, but if
> > it is then great.  Thx.
> 
> No I do not think it fixes anything on Windows.

There's nothing to fix on MS-Windows, since the only version of 'find'
that can be available on MS-Windows is GNU Find.

> But "ls-lisp" is also not involved.  If I understand correctly,
> 'find-ls-option-default-ls' is the interpretation - in terms of ls
> switches - that dired does of a "find -ls" command.

Exactly.





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-17 17:54                             ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-17 18:57                               ` Eli Zaretskii
  2023-03-17 19:10                                 ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-03-17 18:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manuel Giraud; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams, mardani29

> From: Manuel Giraud <manuel@ledu-giraud.fr>
> Cc: mardani29@yahoo.es,  62096@debbugs.gnu.org,  stephen.berman@gmx.net,
>   drew.adams@oracle.com
> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2023 18:54:51 +0100
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> [...]
> 
> >> Here is the new version.  I also modified the commit message a bit.
> >
> > LGTM, thanks.
> 
> Sorry, here is another version.

Why am I not surprised?





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-17 18:57                               ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-03-17 19:10                                 ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-03-18  6:34                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-17 19:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams, mardani29

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

[...]

>> Sorry, here is another version.
>
> Why am I not surprised?

😅 we can stop at the previous one.  This last test whether
'find-program' is a GNU find instead of relying on 'system-type'.
-- 
Manuel Giraud





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-17 19:10                                 ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-03-18  6:34                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
  2023-03-18 10:16                                     ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 52+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-03-18  6:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manuel Giraud; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams, mardani29

> From: Manuel Giraud <manuel@ledu-giraud.fr>
> Cc: mardani29@yahoo.es,  62096@debbugs.gnu.org,  stephen.berman@gmx.net,
>   drew.adams@oracle.com
> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2023 20:10:30 +0100
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> [...]
> 
> >> Sorry, here is another version.
> >
> > Why am I not surprised?
> 
> 😅 we can stop at the previous one.  This last test whether
> 'find-program' is a GNU find instead of relying on 'system-type'.

I installed the former one on the release branch and the latter on
master.

Please note that we don't use upper-case T and NIL in our
documentation; I fixed this when installing the patch. 





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* bug#62096: 30.0.50; find-dired, dired-goto-file and spaces
  2023-03-18  6:34                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-03-18 10:16                                     ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 52+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-03-18 10:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 62096, stephen.berman, drew.adams, mardani29

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

[...]

> I installed the former one on the release branch and the latter on
> master.

Make sense.  Thank you.

> Please note that we don't use upper-case T and NIL in our
> documentation; I fixed this when installing the patch.

Ok.
-- 
Manuel Giraud





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2023-03-11 18:46                   ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-11 19:30                     ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-10 21:31           ` Drew Adams
2023-03-10 21:43             ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-11 12:00           ` Eli Zaretskii
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2023-03-11 11:55         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 14:12           ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-10 19:05       ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-10 19:55         ` Drew Adams
2023-03-10 20:42           ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-10 21:24             ` Drew Adams
2023-03-10 21:32               ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-10 21:45                 ` Drew Adams
2023-03-10 22:03                   ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-10 22:20                     ` Drew Adams
2023-03-11 11:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
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