From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 61730@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#61730: 30.0.50; Compiler warnings for delq and delete
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:24:27 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1pWU7n-0002ao-6j@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83k006kvv6.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 25 Feb 2023 10:11:25 +0200)
> In Emacs maintenance and development, the two cases are actually one.
> We rebuild Emacs so frequently that even a "rare" warning appears all
> the time and is annoying. It is not a coincidence that we usually
> don't tolerate warnings during the build of Emacs.
I am surprised -- I didn't do that when I was the main maintainer. In
recent years, ISTR seeing warnings in the build often enough.
If you intend to make a change to prevent each such warning, that
implies that each spurious warning is a bigger pain in the neck. That
makes a stronger argument for making fewer warnings rather than more.
I resent it when a compiler takes up my time pressuring me to prove to
it that I know something isn't a bug, and I usually tell that compiler
(inside my head) where it can take those warnings.
> What's your opinion about the case of non-destructive functions - is it
> ok if we would always warn about thrown away return values of calls of
> them?
Either make it an optional feature (and disabled by default), or do
not implement them.
When I implemented the options that enable such warnings in GCC, I
urged people NOT to use those options by default. To enable them by
default in a makefile is to impose systematic harassment on every
contributor to the code. You end up with a program as your
taskmaster, haranguing you continually to insert proof that you didn't
make some mistake.
I never used those options.
--
Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-27 3:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-23 10:29 bug#61730: 30.0.50; Compiler warnings for delq and delete Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-24 3:59 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-24 13:43 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-02-24 13:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-24 15:11 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-24 15:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-24 15:45 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-24 15:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-24 16:17 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-24 16:45 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-24 19:33 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-02-24 20:20 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-25 9:40 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-02-25 4:15 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-25 8:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-25 12:34 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-25 13:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-25 15:09 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-25 15:29 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-25 15:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-27 3:22 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-27 10:37 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-27 11:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-27 3:24 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2023-02-27 11:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-24 15:52 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-02-24 16:37 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-04-09 16:41 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-05-01 16:06 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-05-20 1:57 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-05-20 9:14 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-05-21 0:56 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-05-21 3:01 ` Ruijie Yu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-21 3:57 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-05-21 5:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-21 8:42 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-05-31 14:38 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-06-01 0:48 ` Michael Heerdegen
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