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From: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	60220@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 08:36:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHyO48xBwVwp+ojijeAx8yO3FM5o1F4b_5cq3QKi_wSjq7ba1g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83fscx70em.fsf@gnu.org>

On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 3:37 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>
> > Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 17:16:18 -0800
> > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, gerd.moellmann@gmail.com,
> >  60220@debbugs.gnu.org
> > From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
> >
> > On 12/29/22 16:03, Aaron Jensen wrote:
> > > Would it make sense to use block_atimers while loading native lisp? If
> >
> > Might, but it might make more sense not to be dynamically loading code
> > during an idle timer.
>
> This is a limitation we don't want, as it is too severe.  How can we
> prevent loading when idle timers can run any Lisp, and an arbitrary
> Lisp program can always call some autoloaded function?
>
> And I don't understand why we'd want to have such a restriction, since
> idle timers run from the main loop, thus in safe context.  It would be
> a gratuitous restriction that will only draw (justified) complaints.
>
> Can you explain why you think loading shared libraries from an Emacs
> idle timer could be dangerous?  I don't think I understand that.

I've already disproven this. I can reproduce a crash with just an
after-init hook loading several features.

Aaron





  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-30 13:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-20 15:11 bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs Aaron Jensen
2022-12-20 15:25 ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-20 15:41   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-20 15:59     ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-20 17:23       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-21  3:47         ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-21 12:22           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-21 13:29             ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-22  5:09               ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-22  5:12                 ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-22  5:36                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-22  8:18                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-23  2:05                       ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-23  2:22                         ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-23  5:33                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-23  5:56                           ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-24  6:45                             ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-24  6:57                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-24  7:03                                 ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-24  8:25                                 ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-24 15:11                             ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-25  5:30                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-25 19:30                                 ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-25 19:59                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-27 11:12                                     ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-27 13:11                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-29 22:47                                         ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-29 23:46                                           ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-29 23:49                                             ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-29 23:59                                               ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  0:03                                                 ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  1:16                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-30  1:20                                                     ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  2:11                                                     ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  3:54                                                       ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  4:24                                                         ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  4:25                                                           ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  7:41                                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-30  8:03                                                               ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  8:42                                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-30 13:37                                                                   ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30 13:52                                                                     ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30 14:24                                                                       ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30 15:27                                                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-30 15:50                                                                         ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  8:37                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-30 13:36                                                       ` Aaron Jensen [this message]
2022-12-30 14:18                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-30 22:42                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-31  6:33                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-30  8:32                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-04 15:51                                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2023-01-04 16:58                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-10 15:28                                                         ` Andrea Corallo
2023-01-10 16:57                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-10 22:59                                                           ` Aaron Jensen
2023-01-12 11:01                                                             ` Andrea Corallo
2023-01-14 16:23                                                               ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  0:08                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-30  8:29                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-22  8:05                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-20 15:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-20 15:36   ` Aaron Jensen

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