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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, 60220@debbugs.gnu.org, aaronjensen@gmail.com
Subject: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 10:37:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83fscx70em.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <204d542c-73e6-243a-f2d5-36b92cfa25ee@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Thu, 29 Dec 2022 17:16:18 -0800)

> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 17:16:18 -0800
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, gerd.moellmann@gmail.com,
>  60220@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
> 
> On 12/29/22 16:03, Aaron Jensen wrote:
> > Would it make sense to use block_atimers while loading native lisp? If
> 
> Might, but it might make more sense not to be dynamically loading code 
> during an idle timer.

This is a limitation we don't want, as it is too severe.  How can we
prevent loading when idle timers can run any Lisp, and an arbitrary
Lisp program can always call some autoloaded function?

And I don't understand why we'd want to have such a restriction, since
idle timers run from the main loop, thus in safe context.  It would be
a gratuitous restriction that will only draw (justified) complaints.

Can you explain why you think loading shared libraries from an Emacs
idle timer could be dangerous?  I don't think I understand that.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-12-30  8:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-20 15:11 bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs Aaron Jensen
2022-12-20 15:25 ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-20 15:41   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-20 15:59     ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-20 17:23       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-21  3:47         ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-21 12:22           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-21 13:29             ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-22  5:09               ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-22  5:12                 ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-22  5:36                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-22  8:18                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-23  2:05                       ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-23  2:22                         ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-23  5:33                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-23  5:56                           ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-24  6:45                             ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-24  6:57                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-24  7:03                                 ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-24  8:25                                 ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-24 15:11                             ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-25  5:30                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-25 19:30                                 ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-25 19:59                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-27 11:12                                     ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-27 13:11                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-29 22:47                                         ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-29 23:46                                           ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-29 23:49                                             ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-29 23:59                                               ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  0:03                                                 ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  1:16                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-30  1:20                                                     ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  2:11                                                     ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  3:54                                                       ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  4:24                                                         ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  4:25                                                           ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  7:41                                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-30  8:03                                                               ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  8:42                                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-30 13:37                                                                   ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30 13:52                                                                     ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30 14:24                                                                       ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30 15:27                                                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-30 15:50                                                                         ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  8:37                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-12-30 13:36                                                       ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30 14:18                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-30 22:42                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-31  6:33                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-30  8:32                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-04 15:51                                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2023-01-04 16:58                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-10 15:28                                                         ` Andrea Corallo
2023-01-10 16:57                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-10 22:59                                                           ` Aaron Jensen
2023-01-12 11:01                                                             ` Andrea Corallo
2023-01-14 16:23                                                               ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  0:08                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-30  8:29                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-22  8:05                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-20 15:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-20 15:36   ` Aaron Jensen

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