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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>,
	"Paul Eggert" <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: 60220@debbugs.gnu.org, aaronjensen@gmail.com
Subject: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 10:18:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <831qoram2m.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9D33F867-56DD-4612-9E21-ADC1AA09E5CB@gmail.com> (message from Gerd Möllmann on Thu, 22 Dec 2022 06:36:43 +0100)

> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 06:36:43 +0100
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 60220@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> I was more thinking of something like this:
> 
> A SIGALRM handler is installed in the original process. SIGALRM continues to be delivered to the new process after execve but the signal handler is now the default handler which terminates the process. 
> 
> The man pages I mentioned should say somewhere if that’s plausible. It looks to me like that could be what’s happening. But it’s a guess. 
> 
> If it is that, one would need to arrange for SIGALRM to be ignored before execve and reinitialize a timers in the new process. Or something like that. 

Yes, I think our implementation of restart-emacs might be too naïve.

Paul, could you perhaps audit the code which implements restart-emacs,
and see if we need to make it safer, in particular wrt signals and
*.eln files loaded via dynlib.  Note that on Posix platforms we
currently load *.eln files with RTLD_LAZY and without RTLD_GLOBAL --
is this of any significance for "restarting" Emacs that was built with
native-compilation enabled and has *.eln files loaded?  Maybe we need
to unload the *.eln before calling execvp?

Or maybe we should consider re-implementing restart-emacs in some
different way, to avoid these problems?

Thanks.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-22  8:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-20 15:11 bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs Aaron Jensen
2022-12-20 15:25 ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-20 15:41   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-20 15:59     ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-20 17:23       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-21  3:47         ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-21 12:22           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-21 13:29             ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-22  5:09               ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-22  5:12                 ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-22  5:36                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-22  8:18                     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-12-23  2:05                       ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-23  2:22                         ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-23  5:33                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-23  5:56                           ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-24  6:45                             ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-24  6:57                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-24  7:03                                 ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-24  8:25                                 ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-24 15:11                             ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-25  5:30                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-25 19:30                                 ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-25 19:59                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-27 11:12                                     ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-27 13:11                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-29 22:47                                         ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-29 23:46                                           ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-29 23:49                                             ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-29 23:59                                               ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  0:03                                                 ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  1:16                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-30  1:20                                                     ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  2:11                                                     ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  3:54                                                       ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  4:24                                                         ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  4:25                                                           ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  7:41                                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-30  8:03                                                               ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  8:42                                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-30 13:37                                                                   ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30 13:52                                                                     ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30 14:24                                                                       ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30 15:27                                                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-30 15:50                                                                         ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  8:37                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-30 13:36                                                       ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30 14:18                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-30 22:42                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-31  6:33                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-30  8:32                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-04 15:51                                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2023-01-04 16:58                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-10 15:28                                                         ` Andrea Corallo
2023-01-10 16:57                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-10 22:59                                                           ` Aaron Jensen
2023-01-12 11:01                                                             ` Andrea Corallo
2023-01-14 16:23                                                               ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  0:08                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-30  8:29                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-22  8:05                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-20 15:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-20 15:36   ` Aaron Jensen

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