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From: Dani Moncayo <dmoncayo@gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 12443@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#12443: 24.2.50; Default values in the minibuffer prompt (fix inconsisntecy)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 21:17:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH8Pv0iNYV2HZNd6KaB5T1VPUy1v9OQE-z6GR2MwwqyWv-fkgA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6DE0F5273298453C9EF24A012F8DBC17@us.oracle.com>

>> > So, hereby I propose to fix this, i.e., to omit the "default " in
>> > those commands where this is currently shown.
>>
>> I find the "(default ...)" text to use up too much space for
>> my own taste, so I use the patch below to rewrite it on-the-fly
>> to "[...]".
>
> Just get rid of "(default ...)" altogether.  A user can use `M-n' to see the
> default value, and `M-n RET' instead of `RET' to choose it.  No big deal, and a
> lot less noise.

But some users may prefer to see the default value in the prompt.

> ---
>
> Or do as I do in Icicles: give users the choice, across all minibuffer prompts.
> They have an option, with these possible values:
>
> nil               - Do not insert default value
>                     or add it to prompt.
> t                 - Add default value to prompt
>                     (except for `read-file-name' and
>                     `read-from-minibuffer').
>                     Do not insert it.
> `insert-start'    - Insert default value
>                     and leave cursor at start.
> `insert-end'      - Insert default value
>                     and leave cursor at end.
> `preselect-start' - Insert and preselect default value;
>                     leave cursor at beginning.
> `preselect-end'   - Insert and preselect default value;
>                     leave cursor at end.
>

That looks like a good improvement, indeed.

> The default value of the option is `t' (mainly to be closer to what people are
> used to in vanilla Emacs).  But what I am suggesting for Emacs is the `nil'
> behavior as default: do nothing with the default value.  (Personally, I use
> `insert-end'.)

I'm not sure what would be the more suitable default value (whether
nil ot t), in any case, this is secondary, as anyone could customize
it.

-- 
Dani Moncayo





  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-14 19:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-14 13:53 bug#12443: 24.2.50; Default values in the minibuffer prompt (fix inconsisntecy) Dani Moncayo
2012-09-14 15:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-14 16:39   ` Drew Adams
2012-09-14 19:17     ` Dani Moncayo [this message]
2012-09-14 19:10   ` Dani Moncayo
2012-09-14 19:41     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-14 20:42       ` Dani Moncayo
2012-09-14 20:50         ` Jambunathan K
2012-09-14 20:55           ` Drew Adams
2012-09-14 22:47         ` Juri Linkov
2020-08-25 12:30           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-25 12:55             ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-25 13:45               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-25 15:19               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-25 15:34                 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-25 16:19                 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-25 18:23                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-08-25 19:12                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-25 20:00                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-26 12:10                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-27 18:48                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-08-28 14:11                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-28 15:21                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-30 13:16                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-06 15:02                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-06 17:46                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-06 18:10                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-06 18:49                                 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-06 20:18                                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-09-06 20:38                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-06 20:42                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-06 21:55                                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-09-06 21:57                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-06 21:50                                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-09-06 21:56                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-07 18:46                                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-07 19:27                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-08 18:32                                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-08 20:37                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-09 18:50                                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-10 13:14                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-11  9:11                                             ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-09-11 12:53                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-14  8:40                                                 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-09-14 11:15                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-13  2:31                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-12 19:04                                             ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-13  8:53                                               ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-13 14:30                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-13 13:00                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-07 20:11                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-01-17 19:05                               ` bug#12443: 24.2.50; Default values in the minibuffer prompt (fix Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-01-18 16:40                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-01-18 18:06                                   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-08-28 14:13                         ` bug#12443: 24.2.50; Default values in the minibuffer prompt (fix inconsisntecy) Lars Ingebrigtsen

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