From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 52870@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#52870: Is displaying <menu-bar> bindings in describe-function useful?
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 12:19:32 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkm=Q37xXvuDBmpH6e9kTrdNOcj2Q_b_Z+wCDtDV_HbQG+w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83lf03jqvr.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 29 Dec 2021 18:51:52 +0200")
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> If by b) you mean to push the menu binding to the very end, where it
> will probably not seen at all,
You would only ever need to see it in specific situations.
Furthermore, screens are at least 80x24 ( more these days, I guess) so
we can usually fit the entire documentation on one screen.
> then I don't think that could be the default, either. Just changing
> the order, so that non-menu bindings are shown first, is okay, I
> think.
That's already the case, AFAICT. But I might be wrong: I never look at
that line, as I always found it too noisy to read comfortably.
I suspect for many users, that line will be worse than useless, as it is
hardly immediately clear what e.g. "<menu-bar> <help-menu> <describe>
<describe-function>" is even supposed to mean. It looks like
line-noise.
BTW, it is even worse for describe-function:
describe-function is an autoloaded interactive compiled Lisp function in
‘help-fns.el’.
It is bound to <menu-bar> <help-menu> <describe> <describe-function>.
We don't even get to see `C-h f' here.
> But banishing that to after the version where the command was
> introduced doesn't sound like something I could agree to by default.
What is your rationale for this? Is it easier to accept if it is before
the "Probably introduced" line?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-12-29 20:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-29 12:40 bug#52870: Is displaying <menu-bar> bindings in describe-function useful? Stefan Kangas
2021-12-29 13:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-29 13:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-29 14:49 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-29 16:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-29 20:19 ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2021-12-29 21:01 ` bug#52870: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-12-30 7:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-30 15:43 ` bug#52870: [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-15 10:09 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-15 10:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-20 11:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-15 10:29 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-15 12:09 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-01-15 22:50 ` bug#52870: [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-15 23:44 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-16 2:59 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-15 22:37 ` Drew Adams
2021-12-29 15:25 ` Drew Adams
2022-04-25 19:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-28 6:49 ` Juri Linkov
2022-04-28 10:17 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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