* bug#12273: 24.2.50; complex text layout
@ 2012-08-24 22:41 Peter Dyballa
2012-08-27 7:54 ` Kenichi Handa
2021-07-15 20:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Peter Dyballa @ 2012-08-24 22:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 12273
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Hello!
Last weekend I built I built one Emacs X client with Fink as 32-bit application using these libraries:
/sw/lib/fontconfig2/lib/libfontconfig.1.dylib (compatibility version 8.0.0, current version 8.2.0)
/sw/lib/freetype219/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib (compatibility version 16.0.0, current version 16.0.0)
/sw/lib/gnutls28/libgnutls.28.dylib (compatibility version 36.0.0, current version 36.1.0)
/usr/X11/lib/libICE.6.dylib (compatibility version 10.0.0, current version 10.0.0)
/sw/lib/libm17n-core.0.dylib (compatibility version 5.0.0, current version 5.0.0)
/sw/lib/libm17n-flt.0.dylib (compatibility version 5.0.0, current version 5.0.0)
/sw/lib/libMagickCore.5.dylib (compatibility version 6.0.0, current version 6.0.0)
/sw/lib/libMagickWand.5.dylib (compatibility version 6.0.0, current version 6.0.0)
/sw/lib/libotf.0.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.0.0)
/usr/X11/lib/libSM.6.dylib (compatibility version 7.0.0, current version 7.0.0)
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 125.2.11)
/usr/X11/lib/libX11.6.dylib (compatibility version 9.0.0, current version 9.0.0)
/sw/lib/libXaw3d.8.dylib (compatibility version 9.0.0, current version 9.1.0)
/sw/lib/libxml2.2.dylib (compatibility version 11.0.0, current version 11.0.0)
/usr/X11/lib/libXmu.6.dylib (compatibility version 9.0.0, current version 9.0.0)
/usr/X11/lib/libXrender.1.dylib (compatibility version 5.0.0, current version 5.0.0)
/usr/X11/lib/libXt.6.dylib (compatibility version 7.0.0, current version 7.0.0)
/sw/lib/ncurses/libncurses.5.dylib (compatibility version 5.0.0, current version 5.0.0)
/sw/lib/xft2/lib/libXft.2.dylib (compatibility version 5.0.0, current version 5.0.0)
and a 64-bit application with MacPorts using these libraries:
/opt/local/lib/libfontconfig.1.dylib (compatibility version 7.0.0, current version 7.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib (compatibility version 16.0.0, current version 16.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libgconf-2.4.dylib (compatibility version 6.0.0, current version 6.5.0)
/opt/local/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility version 2601.0.0, current version 2601.2.0)
/opt/local/lib/libgif.4.dylib (compatibility version 6.0.0, current version 6.7.0)
/opt/local/lib/libgio-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility version 3201.0.0, current version 3201.4.0)
/opt/local/lib/libglib-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility version 3201.0.0, current version 3201.4.0)
/opt/local/lib/libgnutls.26.dylib (compatibility version 49.0.0, current version 49.3.0)
/opt/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility version 3201.0.0, current version 3201.4.0)
/opt/local/lib/libICE.6.dylib (compatibility version 10.0.0, current version 10.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libjpeg.8.dylib (compatibility version 13.0.0, current version 13.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libMagickCore.5.dylib (compatibility version 6.0.0, current version 6.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libMagickWand.5.dylib (compatibility version 6.0.0, current version 6.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libncurses.5.dylib (compatibility version 5.0.0, current version 5.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libotf.0.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libpng14.14.dylib (compatibility version 27.0.0, current version 27.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/librsvg-2.2.dylib (compatibility version 39.0.0, current version 39.1.0)
/opt/local/lib/libSM.6.dylib (compatibility version 7.0.0, current version 7.1.0)
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 125.2.11)
/opt/local/lib/libtiff.3.dylib (compatibility version 13.0.0, current version 13.5.0)
/opt/local/lib/libX11.6.dylib (compatibility version 10.0.0, current version 10.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libXaw3d.8.dylib (compatibility version 9.0.0, current version 9.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libXft.2.dylib (compatibility version 6.0.0, current version 6.1.0)
/opt/local/lib/libxml2.2.dylib (compatibility version 10.0.0, current version 10.8.0)
/opt/local/lib/libXmu.6.dylib (compatibility version 9.0.0, current version 9.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libXpm.4.dylib (compatibility version 16.0.0, current version 16.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libXrender.1.dylib (compatibility version 5.0.0, current version 5.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libXt.6.dylib (compatibility version 7.0.0, current version 7.0.0)
So the Fink variant uses libm17n and a modern libotf with OTF_get_variation_glyphs and the MacPorts variant has a bit older software. I launched both with -Q and them display the HELLO file and edited it to contain only complex scripts. I made a screenshot of both Emacsen side by side and made from the Fink variant's display a transparent copy with text colour in red and tried to position that over the same part of the edited HELLO buffer in the other Emacs. A few differences are visible. I cannot judge whether these differences are improvements, except for one: the Gujarati word in () seems to be in the m17n enabled Fink variant not OK – there is a low "accent" moved to the opening parenthesis.
I am attaching the constructed image. It shows on the left the Fink variant with libm17n enabled and on the right the MacPorts variant with a bit old-fashioned or no software.
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Greetings
Pete
Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?
- Tom Stoppard
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* bug#12273: 24.2.50; complex text layout
2012-08-24 22:41 bug#12273: 24.2.50; complex text layout Peter Dyballa
@ 2012-08-27 7:54 ` Kenichi Handa
2012-08-27 8:40 ` Peter Dyballa
2021-07-15 20:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Kenichi Handa @ 2012-08-27 7:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Dyballa; +Cc: 12273
In article <955FEE1A-949C-4F36-A66A-9E1777AEB9B5@Freenet.DE>, Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Freenet.DE> writes:
> So the Fink variant uses libm17n and a modern libotf with
> OTF_get_variation_glyphs and the MacPorts variant has a
> bit older software. I launched both with -Q and them
> display the HELLO file and edited it to contain only
> complex scripts.
Thank you for the testing.
> I made a screenshot of both Emacsen side by side and made
> from the Fink variant's display a transparent copy with
> text colour in red and tried to position that over the
> same part of the edited HELLO buffer in the other Emacs.
Could you attach an image file of MacPorts version without
overwrapping with Fink verison?
> A few differences are visible. I cannot judge whether
> these differences are improvements, except for one: the
> Gujarati word in () seems to be in the m17n enabled Fink
> variant not OK – there is a low "accent" moved to the
> opening parenthesis.
Please show me the font names used for these scripts (which
are, I think, not-correctly rendered):
Arabic, Burmese, Gularati, Kannada, Sinhara,
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Kenichi Handa
handa@gnu.org
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* bug#12273: 24.2.50; complex text layout
2012-08-27 7:54 ` Kenichi Handa
@ 2012-08-27 8:40 ` Peter Dyballa
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Peter Dyballa @ 2012-08-27 8:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kenichi Handa; +Cc: 12273
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Am 27.08.2012 um 09:54 schrieb Kenichi Handa:
> Could you attach an image file of MacPorts version without
> overwrapping with Fink verison?
Here it is:
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>
>> A few differences are visible. I cannot judge whether
>> these differences are improvements, except for one: the
>> Gujarati word in () seems to be in the m17n enabled Fink
>> variant not OK – there is a low "accent" moved to the
>> opening parenthesis.
>
> Please show me the font names used for these scripts (which
> are, I think, not-correctly rendered):
> Arabic,
xft:-unknown-DejaVu Sans-normal-normal-normal-*-18-*-*-*-*-0-iso10646-1 (#x572)
> Burmese,
xft:-unknown-UniBurma-normal-normal-normal-*-18-*-*-*-*-0-iso10646-1 (#x1B)
> Gularati,
xft:-unknown-FreeSerif-normal-normal-normal-*-18-*-*-*-*-0-iso10646-1 (#x828)
> Kannada,
xft:-monotype-Arial Unicode MS-normal-normal-normal-*-18-*-*-*-*-0-iso10646-1 (#x7BD)
> Sinhara,
xft:-unknown-FreeSerif-normal-normal-normal-*-18-*-*-*-*-0-iso10646-1 (#x9A6)
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Greetings
Pete
Well done is better than well said.
– Benjamin Franklin
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* bug#12273: 24.2.50; complex text layout
2012-08-24 22:41 bug#12273: 24.2.50; complex text layout Peter Dyballa
2012-08-27 7:54 ` Kenichi Handa
@ 2021-07-15 20:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-15 22:37 ` Peter Dyballa
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2021-07-15 20:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Dyballa; +Cc: 12273
Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Freenet.DE> writes:
> I cannot judge whether these differences are improvements, except for
> one: the Gujarati word in () seems to be in the m17n enabled Fink
> variant not OK – there is a low "accent" moved to the opening
> parenthesis.
(I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately got little
response at the time.)
I tried looking at the HELLO file in Emacs 28, and the Gujarati word
there seems to display fine. Are you still seeing this issue in recent
Emacs versions?
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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* bug#12273: 24.2.50; complex text layout
2021-07-15 20:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2021-07-15 22:37 ` Peter Dyballa
2021-07-15 22:41 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Peter Dyballa @ 2021-07-15 22:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 12273
Gujarati looks OK. In GNU Emacsen 26.1, 27.1.91, and 28.0.50.
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Greetings
Pete
We have to expect it, otherwise we would be surprised.
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* bug#12273: 24.2.50; complex text layout
2021-07-15 22:37 ` Peter Dyballa
@ 2021-07-15 22:41 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2021-07-15 22:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Dyballa; +Cc: 12273
Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Freenet.DE> writes:
> Gujarati looks OK. In GNU Emacsen 26.1, 27.1.91, and 28.0.50.
Thanks for checking -- I'm closing this bug report, then.
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(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
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