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From: Basil Contovounesios via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 63260@debbugs.gnu.org, rpluim@gmail.com, philipk@posteo.net
Subject: bug#63260: 29.0.90; Regression installing/activating packages without autoloads
Date: Sun, 07 May 2023 11:46:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mt2go4ne.fsf@tcd.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83sfc9fva8.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 06 May 2023 16:23:43 +0300")

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Eli Zaretskii [2023-05-06 16:23 +0300] wrote:

>> Cc: 63260@debbugs.gnu.org, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
>> Date: Sat, 06 May 2023 15:10:23 +0200
>> From:  Basil Contovounesios via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
>> 
>> Robert Pluim [2023-05-05 08:36 +0200] wrote:
>> 
>> > The file-missing error is expected, no? Thatʼs why the autoloads
>> > loading is wrapped in `with-demoted-errors'. Although if the message bothers
>> > you, I guess we could check `file-exists-p' for it.
>> 
>> I think it's problematic to emit even a demoted error for supported
>> circumstances, such as a 'library' package that defines no autoload
>> cookies.
>> 
>> Besides, shouldn't the autoloads file be generated unconditionally?
>> https://lists.gnu.org/r/emacs-devel/2022-06/msg00570.html
>> 
>> While the error logged to *Messages* is relatively silent, its subequent
>> repetition on Emacs startup is not:
>> 
>> $ emacs-29
>> Error loading autoloads: (file-missing Cannot open load file
>> No such file or directory
>> /tmp/tmp.QQvQfBZ384/.emacs.d/elpa/sicp-20200512.1137/sicp-autoloads)
>> 
>> This does not seem like TRT to me.
>
> What happened in Emacs 28 in the same situation?

Emacs 28.2 installs and activates the sicp package without complaints,
and generates the following -autoloads.el file, as expected:


[-- Attachment #2: sicp-autoloads.el --]
[-- Type: application/emacs-lisp, Size: 389 bytes --]

;;; sicp-autoloads.el --- automatically extracted autoloads  -*- lexical-binding: t -*-
;;
;;; Code:

(add-to-list 'load-path (directory-file-name
                         (or (file-name-directory #$) (car load-path))))

\f
;; Local Variables:
;; version-control: never
;; no-byte-compile: t
;; no-update-autoloads: t
;; coding: utf-8
;; End:
;;; sicp-autoloads.el ends here

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The current emacs-29 generates no such autoloads file, because the sicp
package defines no autoloads.  But in general the -autoloads.el file is
nevertheless needed, at least for its load-path logic.

Contrast this with a package that defines even a single autoload cookie,
such as the bluetooth package on GNU ELPA.  In this case emacs-29 does
TRT:


[-- Attachment #4: bluetooth-autoloads.el --]
[-- Type: application/emacs-lisp, Size: 962 bytes --]

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-- 
Basil

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-07  9:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-04 10:15 bug#63260: 29.0.90; Regression installing/activating packages without autoloads Basil Contovounesios via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-04 15:15 ` Robert Pluim
2023-05-04 16:28   ` Basil Contovounesios via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-05  6:36     ` Robert Pluim
2023-05-06  9:01       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 12:51         ` Robert Pluim
2023-05-06 13:12         ` Basil Contovounesios via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-06 13:28           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-07 10:59             ` Basil Contovounesios via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-06 13:10       ` Basil Contovounesios via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-06 13:23         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-07  9:46           ` Basil Contovounesios via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2023-05-07 10:50             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-07 12:39               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-07 12:54                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-07 13:12                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-07 13:21                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-07 19:37                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-08 11:16                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-08 13:15                           ` Robert Pluim
2023-05-08 13:18                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-08 13:23                               ` Robert Pluim
2023-05-10 13:12                           ` Basil Contovounesios via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-10 14:22                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-12  7:43                               ` Philip Kaludercic

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