From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>
Cc: 60505@debbugs.gnu.org, Julien Roy <julien@jroy.ca>
Subject: bug#60505: 29.0.60; Fido Mode and Tramp Completion
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2023 21:15:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k011dtw2.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43562d4dd9c31382eb40@heytings.org> (Gregory Heytings's message of "Wed, 01 Feb 2023 18:12:43 +0000")
Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org> writes:
Hi,
>>> It's correct that the same problem is present in Emacs 28, but it
>>> is not in Emacs 27, so it's a regression. As I tried to explain in
>>> bug#50387, the problem is that once Tramp is loaded, Tramp methods
>>> are returned when completions are requested for a root directory
>>> ("/"). This problem is even worse since commit d5c6bf9625: prior to
>>> that commit only the 'scp' and 'scpx' methods were returned (in
>>> emacs -Q), now all methods are returned. And this confuses the
>>> flex and substring completion mechanisms.
>>
>> Yes. But this is not a Tramp fault.
>
> It definitely is Tramp's "fault".
Have you even tried to check the PoC patch I've sent?
>> Completion styles like flex (and substring, didn't test) do ignore
>> Tramp file name syntax. They simply think in terms of file name
>> parts, separated by "/". This is not appropriate for remote file
>> names.
>
> What filenames are is defined for example by POSIX in its Definitions
> chapter ("Filename", "Pathname", "Pathname Resolution"). It is quite
> clear in those definitions that there is no place for a _method_ or a
> _host name_ in file names. Something with a method, a host name and a
> path is a different beast: it's an URI. And it's not a coincidence if
> (absolute) file names start with a slash, and URI do _not_ start with
> a slash.
>
> Tramp decided, for a reason I do not clearly understand, to invent
> URIs starting with a slash. File name completion mechanisms rightly
> assume that file names correspond to the standard syntax of file
> names, and there is no reason (and, for that matter, no reliable way)
> to fix the current problem at the level of completion styles.
In that case I recommend you to abstain from using Tramp.
I'm so fed up.
EOT
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Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-02 19:37 bug#60505: 29.0.60; Fido Mode and Tramp Completion Julien Roy
2023-01-03 8:56 ` Michael Albinus
2023-01-05 13:07 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-05 13:55 ` Michael Albinus
2023-01-05 14:14 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-06 9:51 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-14 21:37 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-15 19:23 ` Michael Albinus
2023-01-15 22:38 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-18 12:30 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-01 18:12 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-02-01 20:15 ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2023-02-01 21:27 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-02-02 6:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-02 8:25 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-02 9:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-02 15:39 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-03 15:40 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-03 18:43 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-03 19:23 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-03 20:51 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-04 16:04 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-04 16:48 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-03 22:33 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-02-04 9:54 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-06 17:26 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-06 17:41 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-02-07 0:35 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-07 8:54 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-07 18:20 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-07 18:30 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-07 20:39 ` Michael Heerdegen
[not found] ` <87357h19qj.fsf@dick>
2023-02-08 8:05 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-08 11:27 ` dick
2023-02-08 13:08 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-08 13:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-08 14:13 ` dick
2023-02-08 14:42 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-08 13:30 ` dick
2023-02-08 15:04 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-07 22:22 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-08 15:11 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-08 16:18 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-08 17:59 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-08 19:03 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-10 16:55 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-12 19:26 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-07 19:18 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-08 15:09 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-09 0:38 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-03 0:23 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-02-03 7:43 ` Juri Linkov
2023-02-03 8:39 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-03 12:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-02 15:16 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-02 15:05 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-05 20:58 ` Julien Roy
[not found] <874k4xblcy.fsf.ref@aol.com>
2022-02-17 14:47 ` bug#54042: 29.0.50; fido-mode and ssh not listing hosts Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-17 16:43 ` Michael Albinus
[not found] ` <handler.54042.D60505.167623003032452.notifdone@debbugs.gnu.org>
2023-02-15 18:31 ` bug#54042: closed (Re: bug#60505: 29.0.60; Fido Mode and Tramp Completion) Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-16 8:51 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-18 17:25 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-19 2:04 ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-19 9:53 ` Michael Albinus
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