* bug#57061: Don't contrast `separate' TRAMP syntax to XEmacs syntax
@ 2022-08-08 17:47 Stefan Kangas
2022-08-09 5:34 ` Michael Albinus
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2022-08-08 17:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 57061; +Cc: Michael Albinus
Severity: wishlist
Info node `(tramp) Change file name syntax':
The remote file name syntax is similar to the syntax used by XEmacs.
Is it really relevant to contrast this with XEmacs, given its
significantly reduced user base? How about just removing the above
reference to XEmacs from the manual, and adapt `tramp-syntax'
accordingly?
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread* bug#57061: Don't contrast `separate' TRAMP syntax to XEmacs syntax
2022-08-08 17:47 bug#57061: Don't contrast `separate' TRAMP syntax to XEmacs syntax Stefan Kangas
@ 2022-08-09 5:34 ` Michael Albinus
2022-08-09 18:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michael Albinus @ 2022-08-09 5:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: 57061
Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se> writes:
Hi Stefan,
> Info node `(tramp) Change file name syntax':
>
> The remote file name syntax is similar to the syntax used by XEmacs.
>
> Is it really relevant to contrast this with XEmacs, given its
> significantly reduced user base? How about just removing the above
> reference to XEmacs from the manual, and adapt `tramp-syntax'
> accordingly?
When I removed XEmacs compat code from Tramp, I've promised to keep the
Tramp syntax, so that XEmacs to GNU Emacs converts don't feel too
aliened. That's the reason the reference is in Tramp. Perhaps it reads
better "... syntax formerly used by XEmacs"?
Best regards, Michael.
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* bug#57061: Don't contrast `separate' TRAMP syntax to XEmacs syntax
2022-08-09 5:34 ` Michael Albinus
@ 2022-08-09 18:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-09 20:14 ` Michael Albinus
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2022-08-09 18:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Albinus; +Cc: 57061, Stefan Kangas
Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> writes:
> When I removed XEmacs compat code from Tramp, I've promised to keep the
> Tramp syntax, so that XEmacs to GNU Emacs converts don't feel too
> aliened. That's the reason the reference is in Tramp. Perhaps it reads
> better "... syntax formerly used by XEmacs"?
Or perhaps "... syntax originating in XEmacs"?
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* bug#57061: Don't contrast `separate' TRAMP syntax to XEmacs syntax
2022-08-09 18:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2022-08-09 20:14 ` Michael Albinus
2022-08-09 20:52 ` Stefan Kangas
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michael Albinus @ 2022-08-09 20:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 57061, Stefan Kangas
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
Hi Lars,
>> When I removed XEmacs compat code from Tramp, I've promised to keep the
>> Tramp syntax, so that XEmacs to GNU Emacs converts don't feel too
>> aliened. That's the reason the reference is in Tramp. Perhaps it reads
>> better "... syntax formerly used by XEmacs"?
>
> Or perhaps "... syntax originating in XEmacs"?
No problem for me. My point is that this syntax is inherited from XEmacs,
and it should be said so. The concrete wording doesn't matter.
Best regards, Micvhael.
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* bug#57061: Don't contrast `separate' TRAMP syntax to XEmacs syntax
2022-08-09 20:14 ` Michael Albinus
@ 2022-08-09 20:52 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-08-10 6:20 ` Michael Albinus
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2022-08-09 20:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Albinus, Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 57061
close 57061 28.2
thanks
Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> writes:
>> Or perhaps "... syntax originating in XEmacs"?
>
> No problem for me. My point is that this syntax is inherited from XEmacs,
> and it should be said so. The concrete wording doesn't matter.
Thanks.
Lars' suggestion sounds good to me, so I installed this on emacs-28:
diff --git a/doc/misc/tramp.texi b/doc/misc/tramp.texi
index 06df319296..3dc6da6e7d 100644
--- a/doc/misc/tramp.texi
+++ b/doc/misc/tramp.texi
@@ -3161,7 +3161,7 @@ Change file name syntax
@item @code{simplified}
@cindex simplified syntax
-The remote file name syntax is similar to the syntax used by Ange FTP@.
+This remote file name syntax is similar to the syntax used by Ange FTP@.
A remote file name has the form
@code{@value{prefix}user@@host@value{postfix}path/to/file}. The
@code{user@@} part is optional, and the method is determined by
@@ -3173,7 +3173,7 @@ Change file name syntax
@clear unified
@set separate
@include trampver.texi
-The remote file name syntax is similar to the syntax used by XEmacs.
+This remote file name syntax originated in the XEmacs text editor.
A remote file name has the form
@code{@trampfn{method,user@@host,path/to/file}}. The @code{method}
and @code{user@@} parts are optional.
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