From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#57061: Don't contrast `separate' TRAMP syntax to XEmacs syntax Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2022 13:52:47 -0700 Message-ID: References: <874jymkmjo.fsf@gmx.de> <87edxpuv3q.fsf@gnus.org> <87r11pfa3z.fsf@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29564"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 57061@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Albinus , Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 09 22:53:10 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oLWDt-0007V3-Rz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 22:53:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59342 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oLWDt-0000KK-01 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 16:53:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34728) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oLWDm-0000K1-Bl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 16:53:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:55486) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oLWDm-0004Mv-3b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 16:53:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oLWDl-0004w1-W3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 16:53:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2022 20:53:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 57061 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 57061-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B57061.166007837718955 (code B ref 57061); Tue, 09 Aug 2022 20:53:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 57061) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Aug 2022 20:52:57 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45235 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oLWDg-0004vc-Jt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 16:52:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vs1-f47.google.com ([209.85.217.47]:35693) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oLWDd-0004v4-7t for 57061@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 16:52:54 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-vs1-f47.google.com with SMTP id 67so5784470vsv.2 for <57061@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 13:52:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=e4kBvm/6N6jrthNDJyQlaE8ICERZXmjw+iH/X5s5Ngc=; b=2ApkluwYNTjGvPBjIN+mb9cZ2MbIF8FkTVgiO+/AjDduLPwFk9i8QTkk/ZYhNUNUXh fXf1hoVYLpNGnZ0C5Ek0OaWizjXonNOQgDjWT536agogYSjgFiJLDzdwvTBB59NqPWOH okZ6Xx4QvZNhocFo4BR8uoc8ubGXPFmCBcozuikERmb/2/8hcJw9ezjNPp1u6ZVx6SMG u367T9axli7lHGxpBTxoxmE0ulxDzJQvBFc8JKWv6Z0jlMTM5q83LfbTfiEKwjMsnHjn dxAVmb+LC462FfGUPY9xyJrFz836xUp5ENRc6aLicA6oTLduTbuMVi0s3M5RWjgHk6vc knBg== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo0w+eyjoxTPcz91nAj1HEN0jt+e0Wz/WlR3BBBzp2x5NOiBOsLT 7X/HKEGWmVEoJbh4kZ8RPwJe/1KAQhavLfkzvvk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR5hIGY9+bl0R+7uiaghpiV7uh+d30msZ7xF+ctdh2drABWoWCmxdRZI6BJtWMKp13B580vOhBRzwgkqhbuUiGs= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:7c6:b0:37d:34bd:8564 with SMTP id y6-20020a05610207c600b0037d34bd8564mr10186808vsg.59.1660078367656; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 13:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Tue, 9 Aug 2022 13:52:47 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87r11pfa3z.fsf@gmx.de> X-Hashcash: 1:20:220809:57061@debbugs.gnu.org::wWjCnBIktqyZRpI/:6FoP X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:239228 Archived-At: close 57061 28.2 thanks Michael Albinus writes: >> Or perhaps "... syntax originating in XEmacs"? > > No problem for me. My point is that this syntax is inherited from XEmacs, > and it should be said so. The concrete wording doesn't matter. Thanks. Lars' suggestion sounds good to me, so I installed this on emacs-28: diff --git a/doc/misc/tramp.texi b/doc/misc/tramp.texi index 06df319296..3dc6da6e7d 100644 --- a/doc/misc/tramp.texi +++ b/doc/misc/tramp.texi @@ -3161,7 +3161,7 @@ Change file name syntax @item @code{simplified} @cindex simplified syntax -The remote file name syntax is similar to the syntax used by Ange FTP@. +This remote file name syntax is similar to the syntax used by Ange FTP@. A remote file name has the form @code{@value{prefix}user@@host@value{postfix}path/to/file}. The @code{user@@} part is optional, and the method is determined by @@ -3173,7 +3173,7 @@ Change file name syntax @clear unified @set separate @include trampver.texi -The remote file name syntax is similar to the syntax used by XEmacs. +This remote file name syntax originated in the XEmacs text editor. A remote file name has the form @code{@trampfn{method,user@@host,path/to/file}}. The @code{method} and @code{user@@} parts are optional.