* bug#6701: 24.0.50; Cut and paste with mouse-3/mouse-2 no longer works
@ 2010-07-22 8:47 Matthieu Moy
2010-07-22 20:33 ` David De La Harpe Golden
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Matthieu Moy @ 2010-07-22 8:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 6701
Hi,
The latests changes in the way selection works broke a nice feature
(I'd say killer-feature ;-) ) of Emacs <= 23. Not only copy-paste
works with mouse, but also _cut_-and-paste:
a) double-click on mouse-3 did cut.
b) simple-click on mouse-2 did paste what was cut in a).
If I do the same in the latest Emacs, a) still cuts, but it cuts to
the kill-ring, and since the piece of text has been cut, it's not in
the primary selection, and mouse-2 (i.e. `mouse-yank-primary') pastes
an empty string.
To fix this, I did this on my account (compared to the original
mouse-yank-primary, just the last 3 lines changed):
;; Allow cut-and-paste with double right-clik / middle-click.
;; (worked in Emacs 23, broken in Emacs 24)
(defun moy-mouse-yank-primary (click)
"Insert the primary selection at the position clicked on.
Move point to the end of the inserted text.
If `mouse-yank-at-point' is non-nil, insert at point
regardless of where you click."
(interactive "e")
;; Give temporary modes such as isearch a chance to turn off.
(run-hooks 'mouse-leave-buffer-hook)
(message "yes")
(when select-active-regions
;; Without this, confusing things happen upon e.g. inserting into
;; the middle of an active region.
(deactivate-mark))
(or mouse-yank-at-point (mouse-set-point click))
(let ((primary (x-get-selection 'PRIMARY)))
(if (and primary (not (equal primary "")))
(insert (x-get-selection 'PRIMARY))
(yank))))
(global-set-key (kbd "<mouse-2>") 'moy-mouse-yank-primary)
Probably something similar should be applied to Emacs itself, to
preserve the old killer-feature for everybody.
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of 2010-07-21 on bauges
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* bug#6701: 24.0.50; Cut and paste with mouse-3/mouse-2 no longer works
2010-07-22 8:47 bug#6701: 24.0.50; Cut and paste with mouse-3/mouse-2 no longer works Matthieu Moy
@ 2010-07-22 20:33 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-07-22 21:21 ` Drew Adams
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: David De La Harpe Golden @ 2010-07-22 20:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matthieu Moy; +Cc: 6701, Chong Yidong
On 22/07/10 09:47, Matthieu Moy wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The latests changes in the way selection works broke a nice feature
> (I'd say killer-feature ;-) ) of Emacs<= 23. Not only copy-paste
> works with mouse, but also _cut_-and-paste:
>
I confess I was aware of a problem in that area in conjunction with
settings corresponding to the latest changes, though it had slipped my
mind (comes from the days before the bug tracker, at least before it had
stabilised):
It is the reason why, a couple of years ago, I proposed a setting to
allow some alternative behaviour for mouse-3 (mouse-save-then-kill):
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-02/msg01018.html
Unfortunately I doubt the patch applies cleanly right now owing to
reworking of the mouse layer in the interim. I can look at it this weekend.
Hopefully the _reason_ I proposed the change is becoming a bit clearer
to people other than me now...
How I suggested mouse-3 should act at the time (Yes, this means learning
to do an extra click for some operations, but
it makes mouse-3 actually useful with the new settings, at least when it
hasn't been replaced by a context menu anyway):
first mouse-3 click: adjust region (only), thereby also adjusting
primary when select-active-regions enabled (as it now is).
second mouse-3 click: copy region to kill-ring/clipboard
third mouse-3 click: cut region to kill-ring/clipboard (using same slot
as copy to avoid duplication).
Note mouse-2 click will insert the cut region even though bound to
mouse-yank-primary, since the first click will have put it there*.
* One caveat - this may also require certain of the
no-zero-length-region fixes to work entirely correctly. (Apologies,
Chong Yidong knows what I'm talking about here).
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* bug#6701: 24.0.50; Cut and paste with mouse-3/mouse-2 no longer works
2010-07-22 20:33 ` David De La Harpe Golden
@ 2010-07-22 21:21 ` Drew Adams
2010-07-22 22:12 ` Chong Yidong
2010-07-31 21:30 ` Chong Yidong
2 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2010-07-22 21:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'David De La Harpe Golden', 'Matthieu Moy'
Cc: 6701, 'Chong Yidong'
> first mouse-3 click: adjust region (only), thereby also adjusting
> primary when select-active-regions enabled (as it now is).
>
> second mouse-3 click: copy region to kill-ring/clipboard
>
> third mouse-3 click: cut region to kill-ring/clipboard (using
> same slot as copy to avoid duplication).
No, no, no. Please do _not_ change the default behavior of Emacs to this.
If you want to provide such a behavior as an alternative, bring it up as a
proposal on emacs-devel. But under no circumstances should such a change be
made to the _default_ behavior.
Create an alternative library `ddlhg-mouse.el', or otherwise implement this as a
_user choice_ (via customize or a new minor mode or something). But please do
not simply impose such a change on Emacs as the default.
Many of us download the latest Emacs code and use it to test various things. We
should not have to wander through new "features" like this that have not been
agreed upon or even discussed thoroughly. Experimental and _optional_ (opt-in)
is OK, as long as it is not the default. Changing the default
select/kill/copy/yank behavior (for mouse or keyboard) is not OK.
There are third-party libraries that depend on the normal, traditional Emacs
behavior regarding the kill ring and primary and secondary. It is not right to
break things willy nilly like this.
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* bug#6701: 24.0.50; Cut and paste with mouse-3/mouse-2 no longer works
2010-07-22 20:33 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-07-22 21:21 ` Drew Adams
@ 2010-07-22 22:12 ` Chong Yidong
2010-07-23 0:21 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-07-31 21:30 ` Chong Yidong
2 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Chong Yidong @ 2010-07-22 22:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David De La Harpe Golden; +Cc: 6701, Matthieu Moy
David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net> writes:
> first mouse-3 click: adjust region (only), thereby also adjusting
> primary when select-active-regions enabled (as it now is).
>
> second mouse-3 click: copy region to kill-ring/clipboard
>
> third mouse-3 click: cut region to kill-ring/clipboard (using same
> slot as copy to avoid duplication).
Why not just make the second mouse-3 click copy to both the clipboard
and the primary? That would make the behavior essentially the same as
before.
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* bug#6701: 24.0.50; Cut and paste with mouse-3/mouse-2 no longer works
2010-07-22 22:12 ` Chong Yidong
@ 2010-07-23 0:21 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-07-23 17:03 ` Chong Yidong
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: David De La Harpe Golden @ 2010-07-23 0:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Chong Yidong; +Cc: 6701, Matthieu Moy
On 22/07/10 23:12, Chong Yidong wrote:
> Why not just make the second mouse-3 click copy to both the clipboard
> and the primary? That would make the behavior essentially the same as
> before.
Hmm. You mean the second mouse-3 click in the current sequence?
You're right (I think*), that would work to appear like the earlier
behaviour, assuming you meant "copy" as in "freezing off a copy" (if it
were to stay lazy-bound to the buffer then, and as Matthieu mentioned,
the text would be gone...).
I guess the new behaviour (which, thinking about it, essentially amounts
to an emacs version of other apps' shift-mouse-1) does belong in a
separate ticket.
(* haven't actually tried it yet, long mouse-save-then-kill is long)
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* bug#6701: 24.0.50; Cut and paste with mouse-3/mouse-2 no longer works
2010-07-23 0:21 ` David De La Harpe Golden
@ 2010-07-23 17:03 ` Chong Yidong
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Chong Yidong @ 2010-07-23 17:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David De La Harpe Golden; +Cc: 6701, Matthieu Moy
David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net> writes:
> On 22/07/10 23:12, Chong Yidong wrote:
>
>> Why not just make the second mouse-3 click copy to both the clipboard
>> and the primary? That would make the behavior essentially the same as
>> before.
>
> Hmm. You mean the second mouse-3 click in the current sequence?
>
> You're right (I think*), that would work to appear like the earlier
> behaviour, assuming you meant "copy" as in "freezing off a copy" (if
> it were to stay lazy-bound to the buffer then, and as Matthieu
> mentioned, the text would be gone...).
Yep, we would freeze off a copy, similar to what Emacs 22 does.
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* bug#6701: 24.0.50; Cut and paste with mouse-3/mouse-2 no longer works
2010-07-22 20:33 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-07-22 21:21 ` Drew Adams
2010-07-22 22:12 ` Chong Yidong
@ 2010-07-31 21:30 ` Chong Yidong
2 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Chong Yidong @ 2010-07-31 21:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matthieu Moy; +Cc: 6701
I've checked a fix into the trunk. Now double-click mouse-3 should
correctly place the text into the primary.
Note to David: the problem was fixed in a somewhat simpler manner than
we discussed. We just had to call deactivate-mark in
mouse-save-then-kill before killing, in order to freeze off a copy of
the primary selection.
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