From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6701: 24.0.50; Cut and paste with mouse-3/mouse-2 no longer works Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:21:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1E03B8BD297C4E2BA4AEE82403EFDD03@us.oracle.com> References: <4C48AB07.1050601@harpegolden.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279834684 6961 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2010 21:38:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:38:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 6701@debbugs.gnu.org, 'Chong Yidong' To: "'David De La Harpe Golden'" , "'Matthieu Moy'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 22 23:38:02 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oc3Sp-0005Hr-3u for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:37:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39775 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oc3So-0004sx-FC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:37:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=34980 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oc3SG-0004bB-UA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:37:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oc3SF-0007wS-Ju for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:37:24 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:43141) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oc3SF-0007wN-Hf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:37:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oc3FK-0003oS-4m; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:24:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6701 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6701-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6701.127983379614643 (code B ref 6701); Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:24:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6701) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jul 2010 21:23:16 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oc3Ea-0003o8-8t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:23:16 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oc3EZ-0003o2-8o for 6701@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:23:15 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o6MLN9hg027869 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:23:10 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o6MK3m3I022797; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:23:07 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt014.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 450793601279833680; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:21:20 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:21:19 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4C48AB07.1050601@harpegolden.net> Thread-Index: Acsp3byqGe/4SY94RJau1v5IispKwAAAFTdw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090205.4C48B6BC.0154:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:24:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:38787 Archived-At: > first mouse-3 click: adjust region (only), thereby also adjusting > primary when select-active-regions enabled (as it now is). > > second mouse-3 click: copy region to kill-ring/clipboard > > third mouse-3 click: cut region to kill-ring/clipboard (using > same slot as copy to avoid duplication). No, no, no. Please do _not_ change the default behavior of Emacs to this. If you want to provide such a behavior as an alternative, bring it up as a proposal on emacs-devel. But under no circumstances should such a change be made to the _default_ behavior. Create an alternative library `ddlhg-mouse.el', or otherwise implement this as a _user choice_ (via customize or a new minor mode or something). But please do not simply impose such a change on Emacs as the default. Many of us download the latest Emacs code and use it to test various things. We should not have to wander through new "features" like this that have not been agreed upon or even discussed thoroughly. Experimental and _optional_ (opt-in) is OK, as long as it is not the default. Changing the default select/kill/copy/yank behavior (for mouse or keyboard) is not OK. There are third-party libraries that depend on the normal, traditional Emacs behavior regarding the kill ring and primary and secondary. It is not right to break things willy nilly like this.