From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: 35887@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@gmail.com, Bob Proulx <bob@proulx.com>
Subject: bug#35887: 26.1; global-eldoc-mode minibuffer noise is very annoying
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 00:06:22 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a7evivxt.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1f8fc8bc-5858-c95e-f876-4020f9f43593@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Tue, 4 Jun 2019 16:30:35 +0300")
>> Would you consider an application like Firefox operational if
>> you launch it for the first time in your live, spin your mouse-wheel
>> to find out whether there's something below the part you see on your
>> screen and get a bell ringing and the information that you are at the
>> end of a thing called "buffer"? Or that after selecting some text
>> with the mouse you just have "Mark set"?
>
> It almost feels like the general approach for a long time has been to
> compensate the general "clunkiness" (or at least peculiarity) of some UI
> corners with extra verbosity.
>
> It's like the program is saying "it's okay if we're doing unusual things,
> but we'll tell you everything we're doing along the way".
>
> I don't find it jarring myself, but we could probably do better.
Sometimes such verbosity is justified. For example, when on exiting
Isearch displays a reminder "Mark saved where search started".
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-05 21:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-24 19:51 bug#35887: 26.1; global-eldoc-mode minibuffer noise is very annoying Bob Proulx
2019-05-24 20:47 ` npostavs
2019-05-24 21:35 ` Bob Proulx
2019-05-24 22:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-24 23:24 ` Bob Proulx
2019-05-25 2:21 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-25 6:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-26 11:51 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-25 8:00 ` martin rudalics
2019-05-27 20:30 ` Juri Linkov
2019-05-27 22:31 ` Drew Adams
2019-05-28 15:54 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-06-04 8:21 ` martin rudalics
2019-06-04 13:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-05 21:06 ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2019-05-27 3:23 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-16 10:16 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-16 14:32 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-16 16:12 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-08-16 14:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01 12:27 ` Stefan Kangas
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