* bug#14787: 24.3, M-x query-replace - useless warning @ 2013-07-04 8:22 Andreas Röhler 2013-07-04 8:36 ` Andreas Schwab 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Andreas Röhler @ 2013-07-04 8:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 14787 M-x query-replace RET ] RET sends a warning "No matching parenthesis found" which seems useful only WRT to regexps. See also http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17464676/emacs-replace-right-square-bracket/17465200#17465200 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* bug#14787: 24.3, M-x query-replace - useless warning 2013-07-04 8:22 bug#14787: 24.3, M-x query-replace - useless warning Andreas Röhler @ 2013-07-04 8:36 ` Andreas Schwab 2013-07-04 13:18 ` Andreas Röhler 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Andreas Schwab @ 2013-07-04 8:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas Röhler; +Cc: 14787 Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes: > M-x query-replace RET ] RET > > sends a warning > > "No matching parenthesis found" > > which seems useful only WRT to regexps. This has nothing to do with regexps. Show Paren mode is a global minor mode that is enabled independent of the context. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* bug#14787: 24.3, M-x query-replace - useless warning 2013-07-04 8:36 ` Andreas Schwab @ 2013-07-04 13:18 ` Andreas Röhler 2013-07-04 14:55 ` Tassilo Horn 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Andreas Röhler @ 2013-07-04 13:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas Schwab; +Cc: 14787 Am 04.07.2013 10:36, schrieb Andreas Schwab: > Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes: > >> M-x query-replace RET ] RET >> >> sends a warning >> >> "No matching parenthesis found" >> >> which seems useful only WRT to regexps. > > This has nothing to do with regexps. Show Paren mode is a global minor > mode that is enabled independent of the context. > > Andreas. > It also happens if show-paren-mode is nil. Don't see it related. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* bug#14787: 24.3, M-x query-replace - useless warning 2013-07-04 13:18 ` Andreas Röhler @ 2013-07-04 14:55 ` Tassilo Horn 2013-07-04 19:21 ` Andreas Röhler 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Tassilo Horn @ 2013-07-04 14:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas Röhler; +Cc: Andreas Schwab, 14787 Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes: >>> M-x query-replace RET ] RET >>> >>> sends a warning >>> >>> "No matching parenthesis found" >>> >>> which seems useful only WRT to regexps. >> >> This has nothing to do with regexps. Show Paren mode is a global minor >> mode that is enabled independent of the context. > > It also happens if show-paren-mode is nil. > Don't see it related. It actually depends on `blink-matching-paren', not `show-paren-mode'. Bye, Tassilo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* bug#14787: 24.3, M-x query-replace - useless warning 2013-07-04 14:55 ` Tassilo Horn @ 2013-07-04 19:21 ` Andreas Röhler 2013-07-05 7:45 ` Tassilo Horn 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Andreas Röhler @ 2013-07-04 19:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tassilo Horn; +Cc: Andreas Schwab, 14787 Am 04.07.2013 16:55, schrieb Tassilo Horn: > Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes: > >>>> M-x query-replace RET ] RET >>>> >>>> sends a warning >>>> >>>> "No matching parenthesis found" >>>> >>>> which seems useful only WRT to regexps. >>> >>> This has nothing to do with regexps. Show Paren mode is a global minor >>> mode that is enabled independent of the context. >> >> It also happens if show-paren-mode is nil. >> Don't see it related. > > It actually depends on `blink-matching-paren', not `show-paren-mode'. > > Bye, > Tassilo > Okay, thanks. IMO it's a bug nonetheless, it's a warning which might confuse users. Cheers, Andreas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* bug#14787: 24.3, M-x query-replace - useless warning 2013-07-04 19:21 ` Andreas Röhler @ 2013-07-05 7:45 ` Tassilo Horn 2013-07-05 7:54 ` martin rudalics 2013-07-05 19:38 ` Andreas Röhler 0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Tassilo Horn @ 2013-07-05 7:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas Röhler; +Cc: Andreas Schwab, 14787 Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes: >>>> This has nothing to do with regexps. Show Paren mode is a global >>>> minor mode that is enabled independent of the context. >>> >>> It also happens if show-paren-mode is nil. Don't see it related. >> >> It actually depends on `blink-matching-paren', not `show-paren-mode'. > > Okay, thanks. IMO it's a bug nonetheless, it's a warning which might > confuse users. Not sure, IMHO "balanced" replacements like \(foo\|bar\) -> [\1] are more common, and then `blink-matching-paren' makes sense. I mean, what are the alternatives? We could disable `blink-matching-paren' when reading from the minibuffer altogether, or have another defcustom `blink-matching-paren-in-minibuffer' for controlling that behavior, and then, what should its default value be? Bye, Tassilo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* bug#14787: 24.3, M-x query-replace - useless warning 2013-07-05 7:45 ` Tassilo Horn @ 2013-07-05 7:54 ` martin rudalics 2013-07-05 19:38 ` Andreas Röhler 1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: martin rudalics @ 2013-07-05 7:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tassilo Horn; +Cc: Andreas Schwab, 14787 > Not sure, IMHO "balanced" replacements like \(foo\|bar\) -> [\1] are > more common, and then `blink-matching-paren' makes sense. I mean, what > are the alternatives? We could disable `blink-matching-paren' when > reading from the minibuffer altogether, or have another defcustom > `blink-matching-paren-in-minibuffer' for controlling that behavior, and > then, what should its default value be? We could disable `blink-matching-paren' by default ;-) martin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* bug#14787: 24.3, M-x query-replace - useless warning 2013-07-05 7:45 ` Tassilo Horn 2013-07-05 7:54 ` martin rudalics @ 2013-07-05 19:38 ` Andreas Röhler 2013-07-05 22:10 ` Juri Linkov 2013-07-08 8:30 ` Tassilo Horn 1 sibling, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Andreas Röhler @ 2013-07-05 19:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tassilo Horn; +Cc: Andreas Schwab, 14787 Am 05.07.2013 09:45, schrieb Tassilo Horn: > Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes: > >>>>> This has nothing to do with regexps. Show Paren mode is a global >>>>> minor mode that is enabled independent of the context. >>>> >>>> It also happens if show-paren-mode is nil. Don't see it related. >>> >>> It actually depends on `blink-matching-paren', not `show-paren-mode'. >> >> Okay, thanks. IMO it's a bug nonetheless, it's a warning which might >> confuse users. > > Not sure, IMHO "balanced" replacements like \(foo\|bar\) -> [\1] are > more common, It's about query-replace, not query-replace-regexp Cheers, Andreas and then `blink-matching-paren' makes sense. I mean, what > are the alternatives? We could disable `blink-matching-paren' when > reading from the minibuffer altogether, or have another defcustom > `blink-matching-paren-in-minibuffer' for controlling that behavior, and > then, what should its default value be? > > Bye, > Tassilo > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* bug#14787: 24.3, M-x query-replace - useless warning 2013-07-05 19:38 ` Andreas Röhler @ 2013-07-05 22:10 ` Juri Linkov 2013-07-06 6:17 ` Andreas Röhler 2013-07-08 8:30 ` Tassilo Horn 1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Juri Linkov @ 2013-07-05 22:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas Röhler; +Cc: Andreas Schwab, 14787, Tassilo Horn >>>> It actually depends on `blink-matching-paren', not `show-paren-mode'. >>> >>> Okay, thanks. IMO it's a bug nonetheless, it's a warning which might >>> confuse users. >> >> Not sure, IMHO "balanced" replacements like \(foo\|bar\) -> [\1] are >> more common, > > It's about query-replace, not query-replace-regexp You can make balanced non-regexp replacements in query-replace like (foo (bar)) -> (bar (foo)) The warning "No matching parenthesis found" helps the users to write correctly balanced expressions everywhere, including minibuffers. When you sometimes write an unbalanced expression intentionally, you can ignore this warning. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* bug#14787: 24.3, M-x query-replace - useless warning 2013-07-05 22:10 ` Juri Linkov @ 2013-07-06 6:17 ` Andreas Röhler 2013-07-06 7:20 ` Andreas Schwab 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Andreas Röhler @ 2013-07-06 6:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Juri Linkov; +Cc: Andreas Schwab, 14787, Tassilo Horn Am 06.07.2013 00:10, schrieb Juri Linkov: >>>>> It actually depends on `blink-matching-paren', not `show-paren-mode'. >>>> >>>> Okay, thanks. IMO it's a bug nonetheless, it's a warning which might >>>> confuse users. >>> >>> Not sure, IMHO "balanced" replacements like \(foo\|bar\) -> [\1] are >>> more common, >> >> It's about query-replace, not query-replace-regexp > > You can make balanced non-regexp replacements in query-replace like > (foo (bar)) -> (bar (foo)) > > The warning "No matching parenthesis found" helps the users to write > correctly balanced expressions everywhere, including minibuffers. > When you sometimes write an unbalanced expression intentionally, > you can ignore this warning. > A help should not go in the way. When writing code, this help is useful. When replacing single chars, not. Andreas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* bug#14787: 24.3, M-x query-replace - useless warning 2013-07-06 6:17 ` Andreas Röhler @ 2013-07-06 7:20 ` Andreas Schwab 2013-07-06 10:24 ` Andreas Röhler 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Andreas Schwab @ 2013-07-06 7:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas Röhler; +Cc: 14787, Tassilo Horn Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes: > A help should not go in the way. When writing code, this help is useful. > When replacing single chars, not. How will the minibuffer know that you intent to input only a single character? Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* bug#14787: 24.3, M-x query-replace - useless warning 2013-07-06 7:20 ` Andreas Schwab @ 2013-07-06 10:24 ` Andreas Röhler 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Andreas Röhler @ 2013-07-06 10:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas Schwab; +Cc: 14787, Tassilo Horn Am 06.07.2013 09:20, schrieb Andreas Schwab: > Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes: > >> A help should not go in the way. When writing code, this help is useful. >> When replacing single chars, not. > > How will the minibuffer know that you intent to input only a single > character? > > Andreas. > So let's extend the single character to a string, which should make the issue more obvious. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* bug#14787: 24.3, M-x query-replace - useless warning 2013-07-05 19:38 ` Andreas Röhler 2013-07-05 22:10 ` Juri Linkov @ 2013-07-08 8:30 ` Tassilo Horn 2013-07-08 14:20 ` Andreas Röhler 1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Tassilo Horn @ 2013-07-08 8:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas Röhler; +Cc: Andreas Schwab, 14787 Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes: >> Not sure, IMHO "balanced" replacements like \(foo\|bar\) -> [\1] are >> more common, > > It's about query-replace, not query-replace-regexp You get that warning nearly everywhere something is read from the minibuffer, e.g., also with `search-forward', `execute-extended-command', `find-file', etc. Well, at least for the latter two, `blink-matching-paren' doesn't really make much sense, but then again, it's unlikely a user enters just a closing paren when he wants to execute a command or find a file. Bye, Tassilo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* bug#14787: 24.3, M-x query-replace - useless warning 2013-07-08 8:30 ` Tassilo Horn @ 2013-07-08 14:20 ` Andreas Röhler 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Andreas Röhler @ 2013-07-08 14:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tassilo Horn; +Cc: Andreas Schwab, 14787 Am 08.07.2013 10:30, schrieb Tassilo Horn: > Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes: > >>> Not sure, IMHO "balanced" replacements like \(foo\|bar\) -> [\1] are >>> more common, >> >> It's about query-replace, not query-replace-regexp > > You get that warning nearly everywhere something is read from the > minibuffer, e.g., also with `search-forward', > `execute-extended-command', `find-file', etc. > > Well, at least for the latter two, `blink-matching-paren' doesn't really > make much sense, but then again, it's unlikely a user enters just a > closing paren when he wants to execute a command or find a file. > > Bye, > Tassilo > Indeed, bug exists also WRT search-forward. Cheers, Andreas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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