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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Wolfgang Scherer <Wolfgang.Scherer@gmx.de>
Cc: 37189@debbugs.gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru
Subject: bug#37189: 25.4.1: vc-hg-ignore implementation is missing
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2020 22:05:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83sgjkdev5.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2354821b-5c1e-f9e3-3a64-4ff978ded33b@gmx.de> (message from Wolfgang Scherer on Sat, 8 Feb 2020 20:45:34 +0100)

> Cc: 37189@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Wolfgang Scherer <Wolfgang.Scherer@gmx.de>
> Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2020 20:45:34 +0100
> 
> The status quo before Emacs 27 is:
> 
> 1. The argument FILE of `vc-ignore` is documented to accept a wildcard specification. This is the use case "pattern".
> 
> 2. `vc-ignore` is called from `vc-dir-ignore` with either an absolute or relative filename. This is the use case "file path".
> 
> 3. Some backends expect a file path, some backends expect a pattern. This cannot be fixed without adding a parameter to `vc-ignore`, `vc-<backend>-ignore`.
> 
> +-----------------------+-------------+-----------+
> | function              | file path   | pattern   |
> +=======================+=============+===========+
> | :func:`vc-ignore`     | strong hint | yes       |
> +-----------------------+-------------+-----------+
> | :func:`vc-dir-ignore` | mandatory   | no        |
> +-----------------------+-------------+-----------+
> | :func:`vc-cvs-ignore` | no          | mandatory |
> +-----------------------+-------------+-----------+
> | :func:`vc-svn-ignore` | mandatory   | no        |
> +-----------------------+-------------+-----------+
> | :func:`vc-src-ignore` | --          | --        |
> +-----------------------+-------------+-----------+
> | :func:`vc-bzr-ignore` | no          | mandatory |
> +-----------------------+-------------+-----------+
> | :func:`vc-git-ignore` | no          | mandatory |
> +-----------------------+-------------+-----------+
> | :func:`vc-hg-ignore`  | no          | mandatory |
> +-----------------------+-------------+-----------+
> | :func:`vc-mtn-ignore` | --          | --        |
> +-----------------------+-------------+-----------+

This shows that (ignoring mtn for now) all of the functions support
the "pattern" case, except vc-svn-ignore.  However, the doc string of
vc-svn-ignore says

    "Ignore FILE under Subversion.
  FILE is a wildcard specification, either relative to
  DIRECTORY or absolute."

So it looks like it, too, supports the "pattern" use case, or what am
I missing?

Now, vc-dir-ignore indeed ignores only one file, but since a file name
is a special case of a wildcard, I wonder why you say there's a need
in an additional argument.  Can you elaborate?

> I have already implemented the core handler `vc-default-ignore` replacing the defunct handlers for CVS, Git, Hg, Bzr by parameter sets. The additional parameter set for SRC is also available. I am planning on implementing Mtn. I do not plan on implementing or fixing SVN (or maybe I will).

From my POV, it is much more important to support SVN than to support
Monotone.  But that's me.

> I would really like to close this thread and open one about the correct implementation of `vc-ignore`.

Feel free to start a new thread, but I really don't see how that could
be of any help.  In particular, this thread discusses a specific bug
(or several related ones), and the new thread will discuss those same
bugs, right?  Then it makes little sense to start a new thread about
the same bug.

Thanks.





  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-08 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-26  0:21 bug#37189: 25.4.1: vc-hg-ignore implementation is missing Wolfgang Scherer
     [not found] ` <handler.37189.B.15667808855126.ack@debbugs.gnu.org>
2019-08-26 23:25   ` bug#37189: Acknowledgement (25.4.1: vc-hg-ignore implementation is missing) Wolfgang Scherer
2019-08-27  7:45     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-28  1:46       ` bug#37189: *** GMX Spamverdacht *** " Wolfgang Scherer
2019-08-28  6:16         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-29  1:23           ` bug#37189: 25.4.1: vc-hg-ignore implementation is missing Wolfgang Scherer
2019-08-29  0:38         ` Wolfgang Scherer
2019-08-29 15:52           ` Wolfgang Scherer
2019-12-25  0:16             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-05  3:46               ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-01-05  8:58                 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-01-05 17:25                   ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-01-14  1:14                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-01  1:20                   ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-01  8:27                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-03  1:16                       ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-04 18:55                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-05  5:18                           ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-05 19:06                           ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-07  9:57                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-08  9:57                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-08 19:45                                 ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-08 20:05                                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-02-08 23:12                                     ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-09 13:57                                       ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-09 14:07                                         ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-09 13:57                                       ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-09 13:57                                       ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-10 16:02                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-11  1:45                                           ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-11 17:32                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-11 22:28                                               ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-12 18:34                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                   ` <6f3ba261-e1f9-cf19-cc22-ec8c24cf3298@gmx.de>
2020-02-12 23:20                                                     ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-13  1:18                                                       ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-13 15:09                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-13 16:30                                                           ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-13 23:43                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-02-14  1:49                                                             ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-16  2:29                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-02-13 15:21                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-13 23:40                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-14  9:23                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-21  0:05                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-21  8:10                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-21 22:22                                                                 ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-22  7:44                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-22 13:46                                                                     ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-22 14:30                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-22 19:14                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-22 22:04                                                                           ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-22 23:32                                                                         ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-23 15:20                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-23 19:16                                                                             ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-22 19:30                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-22 22:00                                                                     ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-22 23:58                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-23  0:29                                                                         ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-24 23:07                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-25  2:22                                                                             ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-03-19 23:42                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-03 20:53                                                                                 ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-07-03 21:49                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-12 17:23                                               ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-08 23:59                                     ` Wolfgang Scherer
2020-02-09 21:06                               ` Wolfgang Scherer

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