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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 61337@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#61337: 29.0.60; Setting frame-title-format makes Emacs to steal focus
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2023 17:53:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83o7q2ltsj.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h6vuvoq9.fsf@telefonica.net> (message from Óscar Fuentes on Thu, 09 Feb 2023 16:32:30 +0100)

> From: Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>,
>   61337@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2023 16:32:30 +0100
> 
> > Oscar meant that KWin focused the frame without changing the position of
> > Emacs in the window stack.  That isn't the bug which was reported, Emacs
> > being focused was.
> 
> Right. The part about the z-order not changing just makes the problem
> worse.
> 
> For instance: let's suppose that Emacs window is hidden by some other
> application's window, (Konsole for instance) that also has the focus.
> When I switch desktops Emacs will steal the focus, but otherwise the
> screen's appearence will not change, which makes me think that Konsole
> still has the focus, then I start typing but the input go to Emacs, and
> this too often causes a mess.
> 
> Same thing could happen even when Emacs' window is visible, of course.
> After all, the user does not expect that switching desktops changes the
> focus to certain application's window.

You mean, you rely on the focus not to change while Emacs's desktop is
not shown?  But if some idle timer causes Emacs to raise a frame, you
will also see Emacs with focus when you switch desktops, right?

I'm not sure I understand the basis for this expectation.  I'd
certainly not even remember in which state I left the applications
before switching away, and will look first when I switch back.
because applications can request focus for any number of reasons.

So I'm surprised that the fact that Emacs gets focus without your
knowing is regarded as a problem at all.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-09 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-07  5:07 bug#61337: 29.0.60; Setting frame-title-format makes Emacs to steal focus Oscar Fuentes
2023-02-07 14:15 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-07 15:29   ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-02-08  1:16     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-08  2:45       ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-02-08  3:59         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-08  4:15           ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-02-08  4:48             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-08 15:24               ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-02-09  2:20                 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-09  3:17                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-02-09  8:15                     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-09  8:43                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-09 10:23                         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-09 11:22                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-09 14:16                             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-09 15:32                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-02-09 15:53                                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-02-09 16:17                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-02-09 16:50                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-10  2:15                                       ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-10  5:07                                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-02-10  7:15                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-10  1:59                                 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-10  4:56                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-02-13 16:02                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-02-14  2:02                                     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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