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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, pipcet@gmail.com, politza@hochschule-trier.de,
	36609@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#36609: 27.0.50; Possible race-condition in threading implementation
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2021 22:27:45 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83k0n6hjym.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875yyqg66k.fsf@dick> (dick.r.chiang@gmail.com)

> From: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com
> Cc: larsi@gnus.org,  pipcet@gmail.com,  politza@hochschule-trier.de,
>   36609@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2021 15:10:43 -0400
> 
> EZ> This will bring back bug#36609, so we cannot do that without
> EZ> discussing first why you think that commit was wrong.
> 
> By enforcing bijection between acquires and releases in xgselect.c --
> cavalierly so as the releases now come out-of-band from another module
> thread.c -- commit 9c62ffb admits deadlock.  The conditions under which that
> happens are not at all rarefied as evidenced by `for i in 1 2 3 ; do src/emacs
> -Q -l ./42.el & done ;`

You will have to provide a more detailed analysis, sorry.  The fact
that some Lisp can cause deadlock does not prove anything, there are
too many ways to write such deadlocking code.

> Generally, a commit made to remedy a phantom problem should always be
> suspect.  In this case OP was squatting on the main thread, so he deserves
> what he got.

That was not the analysis of that test case.  See the discussion of
the bug.  The problems with the GTK lock are real, not phantom.





  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-06 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-11 20:51 bug#36609: 27.0.50; Possible race-condition in threading implementation Andreas Politz
2019-07-12  7:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-12  8:05   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-12  9:02 ` Pip Cet
2019-07-12 12:42   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-12 12:57     ` Pip Cet
2019-07-12 13:31       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-12 13:51         ` Pip Cet
2019-07-12 15:05           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-12 18:06             ` Pip Cet
2019-07-12 18:27               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-12 18:34                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-12 19:24                   ` Pip Cet
2019-07-12 19:57                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-13 14:37                       ` Pip Cet
2019-07-13 15:03                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-13 15:13                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-13 15:54                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-13 15:57                             ` Pip Cet
2019-07-13 16:02                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-13 18:17                                 ` Pip Cet
2020-08-21 12:57                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-13 15:04                         ` Andreas Politz
2019-07-12 12:44   ` Pip Cet
2019-07-12 12:55     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-12 13:40       ` Pip Cet
2019-07-12 13:51         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-12 14:34           ` Pip Cet
2019-07-12 15:02             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-12 19:30               ` Pip Cet
2019-07-13  6:50                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-06 15:50 ` dick.r.chiang
     [not found] ` <87fsxv8182.fsf@dick>
2021-06-06 16:35   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-06 19:10     ` dick.r.chiang
2021-06-06 19:27       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-06-09 21:40         ` dick.r.chiang
2021-06-10  6:46           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-10 11:52             ` dick.r.chiang
2021-06-10 14:18               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-10 14:55                 ` dick.r.chiang
2021-06-10 15:04                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-10 21:36                     ` dick.r.chiang
2021-06-11  6:00                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-19 17:53                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-19 19:14                           ` dick.r.chiang
2021-06-19 19:18                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-19 21:12                               ` dick.r.chiang
2021-06-20 11:39                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-20 14:01                                   ` dick.r.chiang
2021-06-20 15:53                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 13:54                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-10 15:35                 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-06-10 15:39                   ` Eli Zaretskii

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