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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
Cc: xfq.free@gmail.com, rgm@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	13521@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#13521: `sort-lines' on the empty region
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 10:36:42 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83imdcbgc5.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmnf6ch6CBN13opEWDVnZYY-TaT236xg21Qg2KjWuUVz+w@mail.gmail.com> (message from Stefan Kangas on Fri, 21 Aug 2020 00:15:31 -0700)

> From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 00:15:31 -0700
> Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, xfq.free@gmail.com, rgm@gnu.org, 
> 	13521@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > How frequently did you see a buffer in Emacs with no region in it?
> > IME, it takes about 2 commands since buffer creation to have a region
> > in it.  So I predict users to be tripped by this feature quite a lot:
> > they will think there's no region, invoke the command, and get some
> > arbitrary region sorted.  Requiring them to always provide the region
> > avoids this pitfall, since the user is forced to make sure the region
> > is where he or she wants it.  And marking the whole buffer is just 2
> > key-presses away.
> >
> > So I think this change will annoy more than help.
> 
> Sorry, the correct terminology I should have used is "active region".
> This is as tested by `use-region-p'.  Compare the test I introduce also
> to the one in `flush-lines', where I lifted it from.

So if the user has transient-mark-mode disabled (which is what I do),
the command will always sort the entire buffer?  Or did I
misunderstand something?





  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-21  7:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-22  0:53 bug#13521: `sort-lines' on the empty region Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-22  3:19 ` Glenn Morris
2013-01-22  3:44   ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-22  3:44   ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-22 14:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-22 18:19   ` Glenn Morris
2013-01-22 19:04     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-21  1:18       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-21  6:22         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-21  7:15           ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-21  7:36             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-09-05 11:13               ` Stefan Kangas
2020-09-05 11:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-10 11:25           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2020-09-05 14:36                   ` Drew Adams
2020-09-05 14:51                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-05 15:34                       ` Stefan Monnier
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2020-09-05 15:22                       ` Drew Adams
2020-09-05 15:37                         ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-09-05 15:46                           ` Drew Adams

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